I was going to make a post about this myself, but Hunter at rangehot.com said everything I was going to say. A lot of “fake news” on the subject is going around this week and almost none of it is close to accurate .
Addressing the layoffs at Colt.
By Hunter Eliot www.rangehot.com
I need everyone to calm down and take a breath. Please do me a favor and do not buy into the blogs that are running articles full of false speculation and reality TV like drama. As a matter of fact I am a bit disgusted at them, and you know who you are, trying to invent turmoil just for blog hits.
Yes, I know Colt laid off a couple of people and I was aware of this a week ago. The reason I did not address it as it really is not the mountain the blogs are trying to make out of this molehill. I am friends with some of the people that were laid off and I truly hate that for them and Colt BUT this is not the apocalypse people would have you believe. It is no secret the gun industry is slow. Now that Trump has been elected people are not so fearful of losing their gun rights and are not panic buying, as a matter of fact people are not buying guns at the rate they have been for some eight years.
Companies had to drastically ramp up staff to keep up with the demand, and now that demand has gone and left a vacuum in it’s place. I am assuming you all don’t go in full panic mode when people hired for the Christmas season at your favorite store are let go after the first of the year. This is the same principal. There are a number of other manufactures, such as Remington, that have also laid off employees for the exact same reason and yet none of those other blogs have addressed that. Have the gun blogs turned to fake news as well as an attempt to keep readership up in slow times? If so, just do a damn gun review or something and quite trying to undermine the industry. We are all in this together so if you want to help go out and buy a gun or at the very least stop spreading rumors and inflated speculation. All that does is hurt the industry we are supposed to be defending. I am reminded of a quote from Benjamin Franklin when he signed The Declaration of Independence, “We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.” So shame on those who would attempt to dramatize this for traffic
When I get stuff I really think highly of, I like to take a another look at it as time passes. To see how well it has held up or if my opinion has changed. Since we started the website, we have gotten a lot of holsters to try out. Holsters aren’t something really sexy to readers but they are a necessary accessory if you take carrying your gun seriously.
Today we are gonna revisit a few things from 5 years ago and one item now at its 10th year of near daily use by me.
Fist thing I want to update on is the comp-tac gun belt. I love this thing. They sent me on in 2013 and after a few months I wrote about it. I have used this belt every day of my life since. I do not put on pants without this thing, even when doing work that would get me and the belt filthy. It has only gotten softer and more comfortable with age and use. The kydex strip in the center has kept it stiff and supports a handgun and two mags all day.
The only slight marring it has is from me dragging the buckle across it when I try to yank it tighter with one hand. Even that hasn’t hurt the leather or worn any thing places. The belt is made for serious use for years. I’m 40 now and I could see this belt lasting the rest of my life baring I catch on fire or get smashed in a car wreck or the belt takes a bullet. You can see in the pictures how well made it is. Not one stitch has come loose. You can’t ask for more in my opinion.
The holster sent with the belt has also stood my test of time and use. I use this one for when I want a deeper cover IWB. By adjusting the outside belt clips you can have it set higher or lower. I keep mine at the lowest so the grip of my M1911 just barely comes out above my pants, The holster is very comfortable. The leather backing is wide and spreads out around your hip and leg are. It keeps it from feeling like a lump. The kydex keeps it stiff and open for smooth draw and makes it easier to re holster. I use it very heavy in summer months when wearing just a T-shirt. It is a great holster. For normal CCW, I use two holster mainly and this is one of them. This holster surprised me. I got it to review and had no idea it would end up being a mainstay of my CCW life.
This last holster is my longest serving CCW holster. I got this holster 10 years ago this month. It is a custom made Kirkpatrick Leather IWB holster. I had seen this bit of leather in some place or the other and knew I wanted to try it. It was exactly what I had in mind in a quick to put on and take off IWB holster that gave me a full master grip from the draw and had a skin guard. it’s obviously a lot like the Milt Sparks summer special, but it seems a little smaller to me.
This holster with gun shown inside have been through a lot of stuff on my side. Soaked in sweat and rain, submerged in water and generally beat around. It has been with me as I traveled from PA to SC and to all states in between that it’s legal to carry in. I can not even imagine how many miles the gun and holster have traveled with me as my old job required an insane amount of travel. It has been on my side through the best times of my life and its the holster I used the most hands down. At this point it has as much sentimental value for me as it has practical utility.
Now with its age and miles, it is starting to show. The leather is rubbed and worn pretty well in some places, but no holes. The belt loops are very supple now as if most of the holster. The stiffener for the top has started to get a little softer unfortunately, but it still has a long way to go.
The only issue starting after 10 years is some of the stitches have come out.
I’m not sure what has caused this other than wear, tear and time. No doubt me sweating all over it day after day helped weaken the stitches as well as the sometimes wetting it has taken and the oil from the gun soaking through to it. Regardless its a small matter to me. The local leather shop tells me its will take seconds to put a few new stitches in it to shore it up. I believe the flap is glued in addition to sewed so I have no fear it will come loose. The kirckpatrick leather holster have my highest recommendation. Not being a fad holster company these days, you can get one pretty quickly and its all hand made in the USA with high quality leather, You can even chose the leather loops like mine or the kydex clip. Either way I doubt you could go wrong.
It’s good to take a look back at the things we use and write about, Nothing compares to use and time as the best T&E.
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Here we are again at the end of all things. Nope, not Mordor, the end of HIGH PRICES!!!.or hillary clinton, though it is the end for her as well. It’s the end of 2106. No wait, that isn’t right. I jumped the gun a little. It’s the end of 2016! With the end of the year comes the “Best of” picks from things I was sent to review or purchased over the course of the year. As before not everything on the list is necessarily new for 2016. It may be something that has been around for a while and this year was just now the time I got around to it.
List of products are in no particular order.
- The Colt Delta Elite 10mm
No surprise there, you know I loved it. It is a classic brought back from the past and updated. It has the extra “custom production” features I like my serious carry 1911s to have and its something I had wanted for a long time. it is accurate reliable and a real pleasure. No it does not have the supported barrel/chamber, but that has never been something I cared about. If I wanted a hotter round that this gun will handle, I will buy a revolver in .454 or something.
2.The Inland MFG M1911A1
You know I’m a sucker for a 1911s, You also know its very hard to please me when it comes to production 1911s. The Inland M1911 surprised me and exceeded my wildest expectation. Shown above is the NM model standing in for the USGI model. The Inland model is just a GI plain vanilla .45, but its a great value and a tough reliable gun.
3. The High Com Security PC & Plates
Comfortable, flexible, well made, affordable and meant to be used and depended on. Highly recommended if you are looking for a carrier and armor.
4. The SCAR-H & Specter Optic
I have already said a lot in the original review so I don’t think I can say much more. The H is a good battle carbine. I still would not recommend it over a 762 patter AR for every role, but it impressed me. Further testing of it earlier in December further enhanced it’s status with me. The optic also got high marks from me though it is heavy and expensive to the point that I would just opt for a Leupold or Nightforce model if I was going to pay out that kind of cash. Even though, it did everything expected of it and was very fast to get hits on target out to 850 yards and was clear as a winter sky.
5. Model 37 Ithaca/Inland Combat Shotgun
An excellent re-issue. Well made and as smooth and slick as a shotgun three times its price. The M37 is already a classic and it is nice to now get one done up like a military model. This gun stood up to more abuse and ammo though it than is healthy for a grown man to fire in a 12 gauge.
Some products are still being tested even if I received them this year. If something I have talked about earlier has not shown on this list. it’s because I have not spent enough time with it yet. Not being on the list does also not make it bad. It just means it did not really stand out in my mind. If I gave it a good review earlier in the year, that opinion still stands. On the other hand, products listed below..
Worst of 2016
This is one makes it on the list but with a side note. From what I understand it is still being tweaked by the shop that makes these. This one worked about as well as the original. Maybe worse. I fired 1 round before things went south. It just did not work. Pathetic since the gunsmith and shop told the owner he test fired it before sending it to him. No excuse for that. I will update on this gun as the new year progresses. It may well get the bugs worked out of it and I hope it does just for the sake of the owner who is an awesome guy. As it stands I am unimpressed by the shop turning these out after telling buyer it was test fired before it left.
Biggest “Meh..” of 2016
- KRISS Vector
It worked fine. Accuracy was not even close to my personal standards though. A little over hyped in my opinion. While the factory stock has a uncomfortable vibration that it translated to the cheek, I have no real complaints. Though I fine no real reason to get excited either. I would opt for an MP5 clone if I wanted something like this, or better yet, an AR15 carbine in 9mm.
2 H&K MK23 SOCOM “Offensive Pistol “
Of course it worked fine and it was as accurate as any glock. In the final analysis, it’s HK’s attempt to make a M1911 more or less. Now its a bit of an oddity these days and has fallen out of the lime light in the world of “operator marketing .” If you want one or you are a collector of this niche, you won’t be let down. But, in the end it is the “offensive pistol” ’nuff said. It is a .45 though so it has that going for it!
Our posts on the website have been scarce over the last few months. From family health issues, the change over for the website itself, winter weather making it harder to be outside for testing and a normal pause between new products coming into our hands as well as some laziness. To get up something that may be interesting while between T&E products I thought I would talk about a few odds and ends from my personal hoard and give a few words for each item.
First up we have here a Marbles vintage gun cleaning kit in its metal box. One of the higher end kits from its day, the rod was well made with a wooden handle and cam wit various attachments for a wide variety of bore sizes.
Inside you can see the metal tabs that hold each brush or jag in its place. The tiny cardboard box still retains the original patches and the small plastic bottle is cold blue to restore any dings you may have put on your firearm. The original solvent/oil bottles is sadly missing so I substituted a period metal bottle of military bore solvent until I can source the correct bottle.
As you can see above, the kit was very nice and is superior to the cheap plastic box kits on the market today. Even the black insert for holding the components is metal. It is very well made . A kit like this on the market today would likely be expensive if made to the same quality. A time long gone now in a world of kydex, plastic and MIM. Below is the kit pictured with some other items from a shooting world now long gone.
Finally , an advert for the kit.
As testament to never knowing what you can turn up at garage sales of little old ladies after their husband passes away, is two vintage boxes of .22LR. One is JC Higgins and the other Sears brand. The ammo is hard enough to find in modern times. When I saw these two I had to buy them as I am a sucker vintage shooting world items.
Continuing on the topic of vintage gun cleaning. Below is a full , never opened can of military bore solvent. Made from before the EPA banning of the active chemical that used to make Hoppes actually effective. When you hear old timers speak of the smell of Hoppes, that chemical is what they smelled. Now long gone, anyone who tells you they love the smell of hoppes, has no idea they are just repeating something from down the decades and have never really smelt the sweat cloying odor of the chemical now missing from Hoppes. Said chemical being the only think that made it effective at removing copper and powder fouling. Now its barely useful as a dip to clean off you brushes. If you find older bore solvent buy it and try it out. Then you will know what the big deal used to be about with Hoppes.
I found this can of solvent for 5 bucks at a consignment store. It pays to always take a minute to look.
Next up is a War of Northern Aggression canon ball from a battle. Found in a farmer’s filed in north eastern WV and turned over to a EOD specialist who recognized it as solid shot, he then gave it to me as the war of Northern Aggression has always been one of my hobbies. I would tell you the area and county, but the farmer would not be pleased with the onslaught of metal detectors that could pop up if enough people saw it.
Here we have something that was once plentiful and easy to find when in the 1980s when I was still young. Now they are hard to find, expensive and not safe to eat. At all. It’s two MCI ratios. Otherwise known as “C-rations.” None of the contents are safe to eat save the coffee , sugar and gun. I keep these for display with the rest of my Vietnam War collection. I have taken out a can of crackers to show those curious how a can looks.
Continuing with the Vietnam war theme. below are two Colt 20 round M16 mags in the famous Chieu Hoi bags. These plastic bags offered some protection from the elements and once discarded, they would hopefully be found by a PAVN or Viet Cong soldier who would read the printed message on the bag and “rally to the southern government” or surrender. The bags tell possible defectors to come in with your hands up with the bag and you will be accepted by the SVN gov. Stats exist some where over how effective this was, but it did work at least a few times.
Speaking of the South Viets, Below is a M1 steel helmet painted for the LLDB, the South VN Special Forces troops. The painting is of the same image as one of the shoulder patch worn by the LLDB. A tiger jumping with a white silk parachute in the back ground with three lightening bolts. This all painted over the classic VN tiger stripe pattern.
Below is a recent acquisition of mine. It is a full can of Korean war era US Cal. 30 blanks. Made for the M1919 type machine guns in metal links. The can holds the full 250 rounds.
The condition of the can is very gratifying.
Last up is a vintage can of weapons grease. Used for the M1 and M14 among other things. An old gentleman who was a friend of my Father, gave this to me over 20 years ago. He brought it out of the service with him even further back still. He passed away only about 2 years after giving this to me. It is still in excellent condition and I have never opened it.
As you can probably guess, I am a collector and a bit of a hoarder when it comes to vintage shooting paraphernalia and military odds and ends. If you enjoyed this, let me know here or on our facebook page and I will showcase more of my ever increasing hoard of interesting items of all type. Now that SHOT 2017 is over, the website being finished in its move and personal life calming down, normal posting should resume.
If you have not seen it yet, be sure to check out Daniel Watters excellent 5.56 timeline resource that we are now proud to be the home for.
Friend of the website , Phil H has made a new helpful video on how to convert your “AK” to a machine gun.
Sustained 150 round bust through a KAC SR15 with full auto lower.
Regular readers of the website may have noticed a certain piece of gear popping up in pictures for the most part of this year. The multi cam plate carrier seen in most gun test reviews is a product of High Com Security. HCS very kindly sent me the PC and the rifle plates inside it, for testing and evaluation. I have had it since last winter and have been heavily using it over the past months. This review is the first part in what will be an ongoing longer term test and review. Since buying armor is not sexy and can be a considerable investment for most gun owners, I will be wearing and using the PC and armor heavily to report on how it stands up. I hope this will help decide for some of you who are on the fence about getting armor since I think everyone who can, should have it just as much as a gun for personal protection.
If you don’t know about HCS, I will post the blurb from their website to get you filled in since they can explain it better than I.
“At HighCom we design, develop, test, manufacturer, and distribute body armor and personal protective equipment including more than two dozen NIJ compliant hard and soft armor products.
We are in business for one simple reason to protect lives from bullets and bombs. For nearly two decades, HighCom has helped to save countless lives by supplying critical security products and personal protective equipment (PPE) to America’s federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies and military branches.
We stand behind our armor and are proud to say that our products are manufactured in the United States. We are constantly striving to produce armor solutions that far exceed our customer’s expectations. We know lives depend on our commitment to excellence which is why we are constantly developing innovative armor solutions.”
- Premium Cordura Nylon exterior materials
- Shoulder inserts for comfort fit with spacer mesh lined padding
- FASS: Fully adjustable four-point suspension system
- 360 degrees MOLLE/PALS webbing
- External wraparound 6” x 11” cummerbund platform
- Velcro loop for identification placard
- Sewn on mic tabs on shoulders
- Front and rear plate pockets fit: 8 x 10, 10 x 12, SAPI S and SAPI
- Reinforced drag handle buddy strap
- DWR treated package for water resistance
- Warranty: 2 year on exterior cover material and workmanship
The carrier that HighCom sent me is the Trooper APC is Multicam and it has been excellent. The first thing I did after getting it together, was to bend over and touch toes, do some pushups, roll around on ground like and idiot and generally see if i had the full range of movement I would have with wearing anything. I did. This is the first PC I have tried that I feel like nothing about it hinders my movement. Is it comfortable? Yes. As comfortable as any of these things can be. Nothing grinds against you or sticks juts into any body parts. Sitting in a car is comfortable, laying prone is comfortable, climbing up ladders and through windows is no problem. Yes, the plates were inside the carrier during all this.
The carrier itself is made well with good stitching. Usually some of the lesser quality stuff will have some of the sub par sewing to bust and come loose. This has held up., I have sweated in it and its been soaked in rain and been in the sun for long hours and the material and colors have had no degrading.
The shoulder straps are the first I have ever used that actually felt comfortable and I could stand. Usually they dig into me and I detest them but not these. They have no imapct on shouldering a carbine/rifle for me either. The shoulder straps have a good range of adjustment to fit even the most hideous of mutant bodies.
One thing I really like is the plates go into a different pocket than the soft armor. The soft armor goes in through the bottom. The plates insert through a nice tight sealing velcro seem pouch through the top of the carrier. I really like this. The cumber bun of the carrier is familiar to anyone who has ever used a PC. Adjustable in the read and velcroed in the front for attaching under the front flap. The side of the cumber-bun will accept soft armor and the side SAPI plates for protecting you from broadsides.
Once I got the carrier fitted, I started adding a few things to it for use. I like to avoid putting a lot of stuff on my PC. I like the option of using it almost bare and putting on a chest right or TAP over it if need be. For this test, I added pouches right onto the PC to test out the strength of the stitching while I used it heavily this year. In this case, I have a double mag shingle, three pistol mag pouches and a IFAK that moves from it to a chest rig depending.
Obviously you can, and most likely will, add more stuff for whatever requirements you may have. Wearing the PC while shooting and moving around is easy and comfortable after a minute of two of getting used to the weight.
The plates ( front and rear) are the Guardian 4SAs7 model. This is a Level IV stand alone plate. You can use soft armor for a back up, (and certainly more is always better!) but this level is made to work on its own. You can also buy soft armor from HCS to add to your carrier in addition to the plates if you want it and can afford it. For those who choose to pass on soft armor for whatever reasons , you can still have more peace of mind with stand alone plates. If there is any true peace of mind that comes with the thoughts of being shot anyways.
I prefer this cut of plate but they offer various styles and types. This plate has the side angles at the top for better movement in the arms and shoulder and is curved for the body.
Protection: Level IV Stand Alone Armor Piercing
NIJ Standard 0101.04 (2005IR): This product has been certified compliant by NIJ
DEA: Hard Armor Protocol Compliant
RST: Rifle Special Threats Validated
Material: Ceramic strike face composite backing
Exterior Cover: 1000D Cordura®, Textured Nylon, Polyester Veil, Polyurea
Cut: The 10” x 12” shooters cut and multi-curve shooters cut plates are considered nominal and the actual measurement is 9.5” x 11.5”
- Warranty: 5 years on all ballistic material excluding exterior cover and 1 year on exterior cover material and workmanship.
- Disclaimer: Text shown on strike face is for marketing purposes only. The actual labels on HighCom products are NIJ approved self-adhesive labels.
The 4SAS7 plates are a really great deal. Getting stand alone plates at a reasonable deal is like finding some mythological beast. It is hard to say what “enough” body armor is. Any sane person would want as much as possible, n0 matter the cost or weight but that is just not practical or feasible for most of us. If your work place doesn’t give you armor and you have to buy it yourself, this is a great deal and a a level of protection that may go a long way towards making you feel safer while offering real, serious ballistic protection up to serious rifle rounds. Plates give a peace of mind you don’t have from soft armor that will stop a pistol round, stand alone hard armor will stop most of the common threat rifle rounds. To me that is priceless.
The days of scum bags only using .25s and .38special snub noses revolvers are over. If you have a gun , and master it and you are serious about your personal protection I can not imagine why you would not have armor if you could possible afford it. I know it costs money, but it will be more useful to you than those 3 stripped lowers or that 3rd glock and 8 inch barreled .44mag wheelgun that sets in the safe. I know some one out there is thinking of how many Mosins they could buy for the price of a PC and armor, but if you take your safety and this world seriously consider getting some armor of some type at some point. Every time I watch the news and see cities being burned and looted I am glad I have spent them on all the armor I have accumulated over the years.
I you are looking for some armor to protect your body from being shot by who knows what, go check out HighCom Security. You can find about anything you want armor wise and that can hook you up with a carrier to put it in. If you don’t like their carrier options, the plates will still fit in any other brand and they are great plates at a great price. Youtube is lousy with destructive testing of the HCS plates if you want to see if the proof is in the pudding before you buy. We even have some HCS plates being shot on video here. You can find those videos using the search bar. I know armor sits around most of the time and you could buy a gun with that money and all that, but it IS important if you really understand the world is a dangerous place and getting worse by the minute. If you take your safety and responsibility seriously and don’t have body armor for yourself or a family member(s), now is a good time to start thinking about it.
I first spotted the Inland M37 shotgun when on the Inland facebook page around SHOT show earlier this year. I was intrigued instantly. So when I got to the NRA 2016 show, I made sure the Inland booth was one of the first places I stopped at. I wanted to see that M37 in the worst way. I was not let down. After just a few minutes of handling it, I asked for a T&E sample. After a month or so, the demo gun showed up.
The “trench gun “and police “riot guns” have taken off as collectibles over the decades. The Winchester Model97 being an example that is really hard to find these days. Finding original examples can be pretty tough. The combat shotguns stayed in military service a long time. From before WW1 to the Vietnam war all the way until recently. Some are well known like the M97 mentioned above , some are not as well known, like the Remington 7188 full auto shotgun.
The Ithaca M37 is an example that is well known by casual firearms historians as a police or riot model and sporting weapon of high quality. The Ithaca as a military “trench gun” is likely not as well known by many. The action of the shotgun would look familiar to a lot of hunters out there. Though the first thing you may think when seeing its action is the Mossberg 500, it and the 500 are really a simplified version of the most excellent Remington Model 31 shotgun. The M31 itself an evolution from the M17. The Model 17 designed by no less than John Browning himself.
The M31 is in my opinion one of the smoothest pump action shotguns of its time. Replaced by the cheaper to make and sell M870, the M31 action lived on in its ancestors. If you are a fan of smooth as silk shotgun actions, tracking down a M31 is a must. I consider the new Model 37 to be as smooth as the M31and I don’t give that compliment out often. If ever.
The M37 has been one of those martial shotguns talked about, and sometimes seen in places like the American Rifleman and other places that reflect back on US service arms, but not really seen very often. Thanks to Inland MFG and Ithaca, we can now own one of the more rare trenchguns from US military history.
“The Inland M37 Trench Shotgun all-American-made combat shotgun is faithful to the original from its bead sight, Parkerized finish, oiled stock, and ventilated hand guard to its hard-to-miss bayonet lug that fits the long 1917 bayonet.
The Inland M37 Trench shotgun is manufactured in a joint effort with the Ithaca Gun Company, Upper Sandusky, OH. The original steps of shotgun manufacture that was originally used by Ithaca during WWII has been carefully duplicated utilizing modern technology and CNC machining which yields components that are precise and accurately reproduced.
The Inland M 37 is based on the original Ithaca Model 37 Trench Gun which was a variation of the Browning Model 17 and features the following”:
Gauge: .12 gauge / 3″ Chamber
Barrel length: 20″
Total length: 38.5″
Barrel Choke: Cylinder Choke .730
Action: Manual Pump, Bottom Load & Ejection
Weight: 6.7 lb
The new Model 37 combat shotgun is first class in my opinion. They really did it right. After using it for several months I find it really hard to put it down. Hundreds of rounds have went through the gun this summer without a problem. Birdshot, 00Buck, 4BK, slugs, you name it. The solid walnut stock really helping make it bearable to shoot the stiffer loads. Being use to tactical shotguns of modern times with their synthetic stocks, I dreaded testing. It is still a 12, but wood stock goes a long way towards a healthy shoulder.
The Model 37 is a combat shotgun so testing was done with combat and police loads. Target below was fired with low recoil OO buck from 25 yards standing with no support. This was a bit of a warm up for the real test, to get a feel for possible recoil. Much relief was felt by all at how the gun managed to tame recoil a bit.
Above is a target with 3 slugs fired from 50 yards. No the gun did not fling them to the left. After two test rounds, the shooter got a little flinchy on the trigger. Shooting a 3″ magnum slug round from sitting is hard. Hard and painful. I sure did not want to do it, and we only had 5 rounds anyway. Even as much as the heavier solid wood stock helped, it can’t help that much. With some one more willing to eat the recoil and hold steady ,the M37 would likely hold all 3 slugs in the head of the Q target at 50 yards.
With that done, we got serious about testing the shotgun for pattern at usual distances using a variety of shot and police buck loads. The target below was one round of OO Buck at 25 yards. The large hole is from the wad hitting the target.
The next target shows a second and third shot into the same zone. Again, large holes are from wad hitting and punching through the cardboard.
Target below shows hits from 4BK from 25 yards out. The 4BK was fired into the upper chest. Bottom circled group is from standard OO Buck round fired from 35 yards. The “40 yards was written in error.
The next target is OO Buck from 50 yards out. Two rounds were fired at the target off hand standing. I know a lot of people, experts and average Joes have all kinds of things to say about what the best shotgun load is for whatever distance. Obviously it’s best to test the shotgun out with each load to determine what you want to use, in whatever situation, before generally deciding. I think if I were a full convert to the tactical shotgun as a general purpose tool I would trust this one with OO buck to make a 50 yard shot if background was not a concern. We do have video of me knocking down a steel popper plate from 60 yards with the OO buck round. Once it is uploaded I will insert it into this post.
As promised here is the video of buck fired from 50 yards. Camera lens and angle makes it look much closer but it is indeed 50 yards
The short riot/trench shotgun is a pleasure to handle. It’s fast and easy to work with and the slick action is as fast as lightning. The original M37s would indeed “slam fire” but this one will not. As I understand it, this was done at the request of Inland when having the guns put together for them by Ithaca prior to the converting to “trench gun.” I know some will gripe about this, but let it go. It’s a fact of modern America that lawyers and sue happy anti-gun activists would salivate at trying to prove the gun defective in court. For those who do not know,” slamfire” refers to the lack of a disconnector in the originals that lets the hammer fall as long as you hold the trigger back. Just like the M12 and M97 etc
The gun does have the infamous “barrel shroud”! Not to be confused with the shoulder thing that goes up. The ventilated shroud functions as the bayonet lug and sling swivel as well. It marginally protects the hands from being burned by a hot barrel. It will work for a while, but heat will transfer after enough rounds. I think no one other than a liberal can deny it looks cool. Sad to say I don’t have a bayonet to mount for your gratification. The front sling swivel is nice. Very big and tough. You can attach about anything you want to the front and rear. I originally mounted a USGI leather sling to the gun as seen in pictures, but went to the M1 cotton sling for easier use.
The Model 37 ejects and feeds from the bottom. Handy for both left and right handed users. It can take a bit to get used to if you have only ever used the M87o or most other pump shotguns out there. The gun kicks out the empties with enough force to send them about 20 yards if you turn the gun sideways while operating the action . So no worries about any fired case getting hung up.
Pictured above, I fired that gun while wearing a WW2 belt with M1911 , holster and mag pouch with a Pacific Canvas& Leather WW2 shotgun shell pouch I purchased only to be used with the M37 for the full experience. The shotshell canvas pouch holds a dozen rounds in loops in two rows.
When the gun is empty, reach down and open the flap and strip rounds out of the loops to load into the gun.
I have seen some old timers turn the gun upside down and tuck it under the firing arm while loading to maintain solid control over the weapon while moving. So I tried it out. Please no comments about how Chris Costa says to load a shotgun. I am aware. Process and gear used for nostalgia purposes only.
When loaded, got back to making it empty again.
Inland MFG has really been on a role the last few years. The M1 Carbine I tested earlier this year was a faithful reproduction that was beautifully done. The M1911A1 made by the same company equally impressed me, and you know how hard it is for a company to impress me with a 1911 if their name isn’t colt. The Model 37 is another hit with me. Inland has turned into one of mt favorite gun companies in recent times. All of us have seen a rise in demand for “retro” guns in the last ten years and while several companies make Ar15 retro models, few have offered quality reproductions of the weapons commonly used in WW2 and after leading to the AR15.
Inland has gone a long way to meet that market of retro and nostalgia. Now that easy M1s from the CMP are about to be gone and the M1 carbines being long gone, prices for originals are continuing to sky rocket. Repro guns are a great choice for those who want one of the old firearms but can’t afford or can’t find and original. Or just to have one to use hard without hurting the value.
Hopefully Inland will keep expanding its line and one day we can buy a M1903A3 or A4 new production. I would like to see Inland produce a faithful M1911 to join the M1911A1 already in production.