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Winchester Black Talons The handgun ammo that was just “too good” to survive the pants-wetters.

The Following article about the Black Talon was written by Dean Speir on his now defunct website, The Gun Zone. Which used to be the home of Daniel’s The 5.56MM TIMELINE, which now resides here. Mr. Speir wrote this about the infamous Winchester Black Talon and its history in the media. I hope he doesn’t mind that I saved it for reposting here. So much was lost when TGZ assumed room Temp it would be a shame if it was lost forever.

On Thursday, 1 July 1993, 55-year-old mortgage broker Gian Luigi Ferri entered the San Francisco law offices of Pettit&Martin and opened fire with two Intratec TEC-DC9s and a Colt .45 ACP pistol1. Ferri killed eight and wounded six before turning the gun on himself. Moving through the office, he fired the TEC-9s which were loaded with a combination of Black Talon and conventional ammunition. Ferri ended the lives of some of the wounded with Black Talon rounds from his Colt pistol. Faced with financial problems, Ferri held a grudge against Pettit&Martin because the law firm had represented him in a 1980s trailer-park transaction that had gone bad.

Contemporaneous news reports cited the Black Talons’ “razor sharp claws,” and the resulting wounds as “devastating and non-survivable.” However, a year later at an International Wound Ballistics Association conference, the San Francisco Medical Examiner, Boyd Stevens, M.D., who had conducted the post mortems of the shooting victims stated that the wound trauma produced by the Black Talon was “unremarkable.”2

Five months and six days after the Ferri shootings, Colin Ferguson, a native of the Caribbean island of Jamaica, went on a murderous rampage on the Long Island Railroad (NY) with a questionably purchased3 Ruger P89 loaded with 9 X 19mm Black Talon 147-grain rounds, approximately one month following Olin’s decision to remove the entire Black Talon brand of ammunition from the Winchester commercial catalogue.

Representative of the anti-gun, anti-Black Talon hyperbole of the period was this over-wrought description of the carnage Ferguson wreaked on unarmed citizens:

Perhaps a prayer can stop a Black Talon. But a pocketbook probably will not. The bullet is designed to unsheathe its claws once inside the victim’s body and tear it to pieces. That’s what Colin Ferguson was firing, to the right, then the left, as he walked backward through the third car of the 5:33 train to Hicksville, New York, last Tuesday night. And the passengers who crushed toward the exits or dove under their seats or tried to hide behind their handbags did not stand much of a chance.– Time Magazine, 20 December 1993 One can not unreasonably argue that “Black Talon” never really had a chance either… except in the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit: McCarthy v. Olin Corp., 119 F.3d 148 (2d Cir. 1997) which ruled…

The Black Talon is a hollowpoint bullet designed to bend upon impact into six ninety-degree angle razor-sharp petals or “talons” that increase the wounding power of the bullet by stretching, cutting and tearing tissue and bone as it travels through the victim.
. . .

[P]laintiffs failed to allege the existence of a design defect in the Black Talon because the ammunition must by its very nature be dangerous to be functional. … The risk of the Black Talon arises from the function of the product, not from a defect in the product.
. . .

The very purpose of the Black Talon bullet is to kill or cause severe wounding.
. . .

Because we hold that the Black Talon bullets were not defectively designed, we must affirm the dismissal of appellants’ strict liability claims. And that’s where the Black Talon issue rests today.

Black Talon

It was the Winchester Ammunition Company’s BIG announcement for the 1991 SHOT Show: “Black Talon” handgun ammunition, the first major munitions maker’s response to the post-11 April 1986 hysteria over the “ammo failure” in the notorious FBI Firefight.

The trade publication, Shooting Industry, awarded the design two years running:

  • 1992 Winchester Black Talon handgun ammunition
  • 1993 Winchester Black Talon rifle ammunition

In Fall 1993, Winchester took their Black Talon brand of hollow-point ammunition off the commercial market after the rounds were singled out during a particularly intense period of concern about gun violence.

Winchester officials used research to show that the Black Talon was no more deadly4 than any of the other hollow point bullets on the market, but they pulled the ammunition from the shelves to quiet public concern. Black Talon was the first product Winchester had ever removed from the market for reasons other than manufacturing defects in the almost 130-year history of the company.

“It is a hazard and shouldn’t be used,” Dr. Edward Quebbeman, professor of pediatric5 surgery at the Medical College of Wisconsin and a general surgeon in Milwaukee hospitals was quoted in the September/October 1993 issue of thed radical-Liberal Mother Jones Magazine. “At an absolute minimum, I would like to see it banned from the civilian population.”

230-grain Black Talon SXT recovered from 10% ordnance gelatin

So too did the eloquent and blustering Democratic senior Senator from New York, Daniel Patrick Moynihan6, who told a visibly horrified Jane Pauley, “It’s designed to rip your guts out!” in response to a question from the bopolar interviewer on WNBC’s “Live at Five” television show.

Within the week, then Winchester Ammo President Gerald W. Bersett, having been ambushed in his own driveway one morning by a TV crew intent on some headline-making “gotcha journalism,” ordered the rounds taken out of the commercial distribution chain.

For all intents and purposes, the “Black Talon” brand was dead from that moment forward.

What it is/was…

.45 ACP Black Talon cartridge

The original Black Talon7 line of handgun ammunition was introduced at the 1991 SHOT Show in Dallas, and was marked by a black-colored projectile seated in a nickel-plated case, which made for a very “sexy” round! With the black bullets and gleaming cases, they looked as if they were the “official handgun ammo” of the Oakland Raiders professional football team.

The bullet’s black molybdenum disulfide coating… Winchester’s proprietary name for which is “Lubalox…” was applied for increased lubricity. The tip of the projectile utilizes six serrations on the hollow cavity’s nose (meplat). Upon introduction at a specific velocity into soft tissue, the projectile’s jacket expanded along those six pre-stressed lines forming the “talon.”

The "horrifying" appearance of the Black Talon's radial jacket petals

Winchester described this as:

Six uniform, radial jacket petals with perpendicular tips.

Winchester’s Dave Schluckebier8 and Alan Corzine designed the Black Talon in the late ’80s with what they termed a “reverse-taper jacket;” i.e., unlike conventional hollowpoint handgun projectile construction, the copper jacket is thicker at the nose than at the base. This heavier gauge provides the necessary structural stiffness to the “talons” after expansion so they remain in optimal position to slice through tissue as it parts around the mushroomed skirt of the bullet.

The Scandal and Beyond

The controversy over the Black Talon took place in an era when the public was largely uninformed about the reality of the new bullet technology developed in response to the FBI-facilitated Wound Ballistics Seminar at Quantico in September 1987.

To complicate matters, sentiment was already being heavily influenced by the efforts of anti-gun organizations such as Handgun Control, Inc. The issue blew into a firestorm, with HCI, the media, and even some in law enforcement vilifying the rounds and inflaming the public with such near hysterical statements from a surgeon in a Houston, Texas Emergency Room that the rounds were…

…being designed to explode inside a person like a thousand razor blades, (with) most people having almost no chance of survival.

Little wonder that Ms. Pauley looked a little pasty around the gills.

And HCI, having worked Josh Sugarmann’s extraordinarily prescient “strategy of confusion“9 so well in the aftermath of the Patrick Purdy schoolyard shooting in Stockton, California almost five years earlier, reconfigured that campaign to “help” the public believe that the Black Talons were “deadly Cop-Killer Bullets.”

At that point it was an understandable “corporate decision” for Winchester’s Bersett to hit the panic button as a damage control measure.

End Notes:

1.- All three of Ferri’s weapons were acquired from licensed dealers by illegal means. A California resident with a still-valid Nevada driver’s license, Ferri traveled from California to Nevada to buy the Intratec guns. Because he lied about his residency, the handguns were purchased illegally. Both of Ferri’s TEC-DC9s were equipped with Hellfire trigger activators, a small spring device which allows the shooter to mimic the speed of fully-automatic fire. 2.- Winchester Ranger Talon (Ranger SXT/Black Talon) Wound Ballistics. 3.- The handgun had been obtained at a California sporting goods store after Ferguson had shown proof of residency, a driver’s license using the address of a motel where he was staying. Ferguson passed the background check and waited the mandatory 15 days before picking up his gun. 4.- Ironically, siqnificantly undercutting the implied claims of Winchester’s advertising campaign for the Black Talon line of handgun ammunition. 5.- Why were we not surprised? The American Academy of Pediatrics was in the forefront of the anti-gun onslught in the earlt ’90s. 6.- But then Moynihan had spent his entire senatorial career (1976-2000) attempting to ban one form of handgun ammunition or another, mostly .25 ACP, .32 ACP and, despite the law enforcement wundernine transition craze of the late ’80s, during the 102nd Congress (1991-1992) even 9 X 19mm/9mm parabellum! When it came to the Black Talon rounds, however, Moynihan was threatening a 1000% tax on all hollow-point handgun cartridges. 7.- Olin had briefly considered naming their new round “Black Widow,” but a far-thinking employee quickly dissuaded the company from such an undertaking. Even so, at least one major West Coast law enforcement agency with a well-identified public relations problem with the African-American community it served, refused to purchase the rounds for duty issue unless Winchester shipped them in generic packaging similar to the company’s “USA” brand ammo without any “Black Talon” identification. 8.- Not long after the Black Talon project was completed at Olin, Schluckebier moved to Remington where he designed and developed the “Golden Saber” line of handgun ammunition. 9.- In September 1988, four months prior to Purdy’s rampage with a semi-automatic Kalasknikov in January 1989, Sugarmann had issued “Assault Weapons and Accessories in America: a strategy paper” in anticipation of just such an event, suggesting that the anti-gunners raise a hullabaloo about “the need to ban such deadly assault rifles,” by trading on the public’s inability to tell the difference between a fully automatic and a semi-automatic firearm. He urged that the anti-gunners make use of this confusion to open another front with greater prospects of success, noting that:

[A]ssault weapons are quickly becoming the leading topic of America’s gun control debate and will most likely remain the leading gun control issue for the near future. Such a shift will not only damage America’s gun lobby, but strengthen the handgun restriction lobby….

The weapons’ menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons – anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun – can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons. In addition, few people can envision a practical use for these weapons.

Following Stockton, the pro-Second Amendment people immediately went on a silly counter-offensive correcting the media about “assault rifles,” by definition being capable of full-auto fire, having already been heavily regulated by the National Firearms Act of 1934.
A lot of good that did… within a very short time President Bush (#41) and his “drug czar,” Bill Bennett, had banned further importation of all AK-47s and most other semi-automatic rifles, the media quickly adopted Sugarmann’s “assault weapon” term, and in September 1994 the Clinton Administration passed a major ban on such firearms and high capacity magazines as part of a “Crime Bill.”

by Dean Speir, formerly famous gunwriter


A 12-year-old Overland Park girl formed a gun with her fingers, pointed at four of her Westridge Middle School classmates one at a time, and then turned the pretend weapon toward herself.

More and more every day I thank God I went to school in the 1980s when the country was still sane.

Police hauled her out of school in handcuffs, arrested her and charged the child with a felony for threatening. Their proudest collar no doubt.

Shawnee Mission school officials said they could not discuss the case, citing privacy laws, but did say it wasn’t the district that arrested the child.

“We don’t do that,” said spokesman David Smith. “That is not our job.” He said the role of the district police is “not to enforce the law but to keep kids and adults safe.”

I feel safer already.

A school resource officer, employed, by the Overland Park Police Department, would have handled the arrest, Smith said. The department said it could not discuss the case.

But according to Johnson County District Court documents, on Sept. 18, the girl “unlawfully and feloniously communicated a threat to commit violence, with the intent to place another, in fear, or with the intent to cause the evacuation, lock down or disruption in regular, ongoing activities …” or created just the risk of causing such fear.

I shudder to think what we would have been charged with back in the day. Back when they let us bring toy water guns and such for recess. I was really gonna give this idiocy a good going over but I don’t have the heart for it. It’s too nice a day and I got better things to do than to read this communist bullshit. Link to full leftist raving anitgun news story below but I don’t recommend giving them traffic unless you just want to be enraged on a Saturday morning.


The Birth of the Winchester Model 70

Most of this week I was working on some posts about the Model 70 Winchester, my favorite bolt action rifle. I had about half of a long article going when I checked my email today and saw that Rock Island Auction had already finished one. Well that was a lot of work for nothing. Waaa Waaaaah Sad trombone.. So, instead of finishing that first post, here is the RIA article. Or about half of it. Follow the link at bottom to read it all and I will be back with more Model 70 stuff to show you and talk about next week.

From the RIA Gun Blog

The earliest version of the Winchester Model 70 borrowed heavily from its short produced predecessor, the Model 54. Designed by Thomas Johnson and developed in the early 1920s, the Model 54 became the first bolt action rifle made by Winchester and continued production until around 1935. Bolt action rifles had gained popularity in America after World War I since soldiers coming home were well acclimated with them after using their service M1903 and M1917 rifles. Between 1925 and 1941, around 50,000 of these guns were manufactured. The Model 54 came in several different caliber variations with the most popular being .30-30 Winchester and .30-06 Springfield, but customers could also place special orders for other calibers. The gun’s main purpose was for hunting, but was also customized and used in shooting competitions.

The original Model 54 was a dangerous and poorly produced rifle. Originally designed without the necessary gas escape ports, it could present an explosive hazard to its user. This blunder was corrected on later productions of the model, but the gun still fell short with the public. The main reason the Model 54 was never found success was due to the obvious flaws in its bolt and safety design. The wide throw of the bolt and placement of the safety did not all allow for telescopic scopes to be mounted on to the gun which turned away a wide array of civilian and military customers. The trigger was loose due to the cheaper materials used in the gun, causing inaccuracy and a relatively weak action. To say the least, customers were not pleased by the rifle’s performance.

Beyond the shortcomings of the rifle, the fact that it was sold in the Great Depression Era in America also contributed to lower sales. Something had to change in order for the Model 54 to make a profit for Winchester.


Rare Winchester Model 54 Deluxe Heavy Barrel Bolt Action Rifle in 250-3000 Savage Caliber

The Winchester Model 54 was a bust and in the hopes of redeeming their name in the bolt action rifle market, Winchester knew they would need to come up with a firearm that knocked its customers’ socks off. In 1935, attempting to use parts and the machinery purchased for the previous gun, they released a much improved version of the bolt action and called it the Winchester Model 70 rifle. The gun was so well made that it is considered one of the finest bolt action rifles made in America. The first incarnation of the Model 70 hit the market in 1936.

The rifle came in 18 cartridge varieties and additional variations were available through special order. The standard Winchester Model 70 offered a 24”, 26”, or 28” inch barrel. Perhaps the best feature of the rifle that made it superior to other guns was the Mauser two lug extractor bolt with controlled round feeding, which was smooth and made for faster firing. The early versions of the gun were equipped to accept stripper for quicker reloading relative to other options on the market. The entire gun was made from steel and wood. The finished pieces were true works of art.

Highly engraved Winchester Model 70

Elaborate Relief Engraved, Gold Inlaid African Big Game Themed Winchester Model 70 Bolt Action Rifle in .458 Winchester Magnum. Avaliable this December.

Hunters, competition shooters, and other sportsmen took a liking to the accurate and efficient Winchester hunting rifle. The first production run was short lived due to the outbreak of World War II, which changed Winchester’s military production efforts. The U.S. military adapted a small amount of Model 70 rifles for training and some use in combat during World War II,  but the government already had on hand thousands of M1903 and M1917 rifles from the first World War, as well as new contracts for thousands of new M1903A3 guns, resulting in little need for another bolt action rifle. In fact, during the Vietnam War, in an attempt to use all available resources, the US government gave troops the Model 70 rifles from World War II for actual use in combat. Despite the advancements in military arms over the last 30 or so years, the Model 70 proved to be an excellent sniper rifle for the Marines with its reliable accuracy and long distance power.

After World War II, small alterations were added to the Winchester Model 70 making the early 1940s era a transitional time for the gun. From the late 1940s to 1963, several different models and chambering adaptations were added. The Varmint, the African, the Alaskan, and the Featherweight are just a few of the variations that came about during that era. Around 600,000 Winchester Model 70 rifles were made in that time span; substantially more than the 50,000 Model 54 rifles produced during its 16 year run. The Model 70 a tremendous hit and the premier bolt action hunting rifle even while it was still undergoing changes.

The “New” Winchester Model 70

The Model 70 was made in the exact same design until 1964, but there was new, less expensive competition emerging in the market such as the Weatherby Mark V and the Savage Model 110. Winchester had to find a way to produce the Model 70 in a cheaper and quicker way while still maintaining quality if they wanted to stay on top. The new gun had drastic changes that made fans of the Model 70 quite unhappy. The most controversial was the switch from the controlled round feed with a claw-like extractor to a push feed bolt with a small hook extractor on the right locking lug. People didn’t trust the little hook would be reliable compared to the claw-like extractor used in the previous design. The original hand cut barrel and rifling was changed to a cheaper and easier process of using a forged barrel. Winchester began to cut costs on the deluxe features by adapting a pressing method instead of cut checkering on the wood of the gun. Some materials used went from steel to aluminum to reduce costs further. One improvement was the anti-bind feature which actually helped the bolt become smoother. The addition was referred to by Winchester as the “guide lug” which was essentially a lug on the bottom left of the bolt that that ran on a track inside the receiver. This kept the bolt at the correct angle to prevent binding.

The changes from the original design to the new production is why the Winchester Model 70 rifle is referred to by gun enthusiasts as “pre-64” and “post-64.” Getting a Model 70 made before these changes occurred is much more pricey and desirable due to age, quality, and nostalgia.

Model 70 Super Grade

Factory Engraved Gold Inlaid Winchester Custom Shop Custom Grade Model 70 Super Grade Model 70 Bolt Action Rifle. Avaliable this December.

In 1968, Winchester took note of the public’s disdain in many of the changes and started adding back elements of the original rifle throughout the next decade or so. In the 1990s, Winchester released what was called, “The Model 70 Classic” which was a callback to the original Model 70 design and features. The most requested feature was added, which was the return of the controlled feed ejector bolt. The gun was well-produced and some may say an improved version of the original with the addition of the anti-bind bolt feature. The changes Winchester made to redeem the new Model 70 contributed to the rifle retaining its name as the finest American hunting gun.

If you would like to read an in-depth description of the evolution of the Winchester Model 70 and all its variations, purchase a copy of the book The Rifleman’s Rifle by Roger Rule. It provides a thorough overview of all iterations of the Model 70.

Link to read the entire piece and see more pictures below.



Just in case you forgot, I wanted to remind you once again that these types of mass casualty events only happen in the US. Because of Guns. Guns, the NRA and white men. I know this because Barrack The Benevolent.

LONDON — British counterterrorism police are investigating a Friday morning stabbing attack at shopping mall in Manchester, in northern England.

Greater Manchester Police said three victims — two women and a man — were taken to the hospital with stab wounds and a fourth was treated at the scene.

A man in his 40s was arrested on suspicion of serious assault, Manchester police said. They did not immediately release more details about the suspect, such as his name or possible motives.

Images on social media showed a man in a puffer jacket on the ground, with one police officer holding his wrists and a second officer standing over him with a Taser.

“In these early stages, we are keeping an open mind about the motivation of this terrible incident and the circumstances as we know them,” police said. 

Armed police surround the Arndale shopping center, where a man stabbed five people on Oct. 11, 2019, in Manchester, England. (Anthony Devlin/Getty Images)
Armed police surround the Arndale shopping center, where a man stabbed five people on Oct. 11, 2019, in Manchester, England. (Anthony Devlin/Getty Images)

In a series of statements, the Greater Manchester Police said they were alerted to reports of multiple stabbings at Arndale Shopping Centre in Manchester City Centre at 11:17 a.m. local time.

“Given the location of the incident and its nature, officers from Counter Terrorism Police North West are leading the investigation as we determine the circumstances,” police said.

Britain’s MI5 service, the domestic counterintelligence and security agency, is also monitoring the case, police said.

Witnesses at the shopping center told Britain’s Press Association that a man tried to slash people, seemingly at random.

A shop worker, who gave his name only as Jordan, 23, told the PA news agency: “A man was running around with a knife lunging at multiple people, one of which came into my store visibly shaken with a small graze.” “And I was 100 percent helpless to do anythin abotu it because my over lords disarmed me long ago.

Jordan said, “Soon after, security staff told all retail staff to close their doors and move the public to the back of the stores.” To make them an easier bigger target one suspects.

Freddie Houlder, 22, was in the Arndale mall when he heard “a load of screams just outside” the store he was in.

Houlder told the Press Association that a woman came into the shop and told others that “a guy just ran past the shop and tried to stab me.” Some one then said “fake news,. knives are illegal here mate”

Houlder said, “Luckily she had quite a thick jacket — she thought originally it was a fake knife because of how easily it grazed off, but police came in and said it was a real knife and she burst into tears.” Better ban those stab proof vests then .

The Arndale shopping center is a short walk from the Manchester Arena, where 22 people were killed by an explosion outside an Ariane Grande concert in May 2017. Suicide bomber Salman Abedi died in that attack; his brother is on trial for conspiring to cause the blast.

The mall has undergone major renovations since 1996, when it was damaged following an attack in which the Irish Republican Army detonated a 3,300-pound device nearby. The Irish need to be banned.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson said he was “shocked” by the stabbings. “Thank you to our excellent emergency services who responded and who are now investigating what happened,” Johnson tweeted.