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I don’t get railed forearms on Shotguns

It just doesn’t make sense to me.

Now I love the Picatinny rail, but replacing a shotguns pump grip with a rail seems silly to me.

First I ask, what are you doing where you need all that rail space? Are there people mounting lights, lasers, VFGs, bipods, range finders, etc on their shotguns? I’m sure someone is doing that, but all the shotguns I’ve seen with tri-rail pump might have a light, or a vertical forward grip. But not much. Certainly not enough to warrant a tri-rail.

Now I haven’t used the Ergo rail that is pictured above. Nor have I used most of the tri-rails on the market. But I no know most cheap rail systems I have used have sharp edges. Part of the reason detractors of rails have often called them “cheese graters”. I can’t imagine that any of these rails are pleasant to hold under a shotguns recoil. But I may be wrong. I dunno. I just can’t imagine it.

It seems to me that a light on a shotgun would be better mounted to the barrel/mag tube.

Image from an expired ebay auction for a ” CDM MOD-C – Shotgun Flashlight Mount

That seems more practical to me. You are not having to rack the light each time you are pumping the action.

I’ve seen people use a vertical forward grip on a pump shotgun. I’ve fired a Keltec KSG with one. Felt awkward to me, but I’m not going to tell someone not to do it. I think that if you wanted a VFG on a shotgun pump, you could screw one right into the existing pump and not have to have all that aluminium rail. Or attach a small section of picatinny rail to the standard pump and attach the grip to that.

Do you really need more rail than that for a light?

Even this thing doesn’t have a tri-rail pump:

Something from Black Aces Tactical. They send out emails with stuff like this all the time. Like almost every week.

Do any of you use a tri-railed shotgun? How do you like it?

When Guns Are Outlawed Only Outlaws Will Have A Knife, Walking Stick, Power Drill, 2 Table Legs, Jumper Cables & A Crochet Hook

MINNEAPOLIS (FOX 9) – A 66-year-old man is charged in connection to a deadly, brutal attack in which the victim suffered more than 100 injuries caused by multiple weapons including possible jumper cables and a crochet hook, according to a Hennepin County criminal complaint.

Larry Joe Foster, 66, of Burnsville is charged with second-degree murder. He faces up to 40 years in prison.
According to the charges, just after midnight on September 2, Minneapolis firefighters responded to a fire at the 2600 block of 13th Avenue South in Minneapolis. Inside the home, they put out the fire and immediately found a body, later identified as 60-year-old Daniel Martin Bradley.

Firefighters determined the fire started from the kitchen stove and did not impact Bradley, who had “obvious homicidal injuries.” Minneapolis police responded and inside the room found a broken walking stick, two broken chair legs and a set of jumper cables, which appeared to be used in the attack. Along the blood trail, police found a bloody butcher knife in the backyard and a cordless power drill covered in blood in a neighbor’s back yard.

The Hennepin County Medical Examiner determined Bradley suffered 100 blunt-force and sharp-force injuries. The examiner confirmed multiple weapons were used, including a crochet hook, which was found lodged in his chest.

https://www.fox9.com/news/charges-jumper-cables-crochet-hook-among-weapons-in-deadly-minneapolis-attack

Scattered Shots 9/13/2019

I know readers have gotten used to 5-6 posts a day so I wanted to make a post letting you know I’m taking a 3 day weekend off. Things will be back to normal on Monday 9-16-2019. Some friends are coming in from out of town for a big day of shooting tomorrow and I want to do some more hunting today and Sunday. And I simply want a few days off to refresh the old brain. Howard will still be posting of course but there won’t be much from me of any substance unless something unforeseen cancels all my plans. I will see you back in Monday. Until then here are some cool pictures and random things just for a fun Friday.

WHEN GUNS ARE OUTLAWED ONLY OUTLAWS WILL BE CAR WINDOWS

I’m still having trouble understanding how this really happened.

A young mother died on her 21st birthday after getting her neck wedged in the closing window of her family’s BMW.

Yulia Sharko was trying to pull her two year old daughter from the vehicle through the half open front seat window.

At this moment, the child pressed the automatic switch closing it – which garrotted her mother, say reports citing law enforcement.

Her husband Artur found the mother-of-two unconscious soon after the freak accident.

Yulia Sharko (pictured with husband Artur and one of their daughters) was killed in a freak accident when her neck was caught in the closing window of her family's BMW

Yulia Sharko (pictured with husband Artur and one of their daughters) was killed in a freak accident when her neck was caught in the closing window of her family’s BMW

He broke the jammed window to release her, and pulled her ‘lifeless body’ from the car in the village of Staroe Selo.

ahem…… I doubt.

The distraught man then called emergency services and she was rushed to hospital.

Yulia, from Žabinka, died eight days after the tragic accident having suffered asphyxia leading to brain damage.

The tragic mother was taken to Brest regional hospital ‘in a grave condition with signs of mechanical asphyxia and traumas’, he said.

The investigative committee is examining the circumstances of the young woman’s death. Yea. Good move.

The car was reported to be a BMW E34.

The couple had two children, Margarita and Arianna

Had?

Top Man Airs Himself Out

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. – An Orange County Sheriff’s Office patrol corporal wounded himself Wednesday when he accidentally( negligently)fired his weapon during a training exercise, officials said.

OOPSIE!

Sheriff John Mina said the deputy was at a department training facility on Wewahootee Road around 10:30 a.m. when he accidentally( negligently ) shot himself.

He was the only one profeshional enough to carry a fortay.

“The deputies on the scene and the firefighters who responded provided excellent care based on their training,” Mina said. “We were able to stop the bleeding right away and get him transported here to Orlando Health.” Hand claps and back pats all around boys. Good job getting in some realistic training. I wonder what qual scores were like from the police officer who aired himself out.

Mina said the deputy was awake and alert after the incident. Chuckle. I bet he was!

He said the Sheriff’s Office employee has been with the department since 2011 and is currently working as a patrol corporal. I’m sure the people of Orange Co. feel safer knowing this now.

A public relations officer with the Sheriff’s Office said the deputy sheriff was at a department training facility on Wewahootee Road around 10:30 a.m. when he ( violated the firearms safety rules) accidentally(negligently) shot himself.

Sheriff John Mina said the deputy is in stable condition and was shot in the lower half of his body. Sounds suspiciously like he shot himself in the nuts.

“Anytime there’s an incident like this, there is an internal investigation,” he said. “Then, we look at it from a training perspective.  What exactly happened? What went wrong? What we can do to fix it going forward?” I think we all can make a pretty good guess…

Mina said an internal investigation will be conducted, which is standard procedure when a deputy fires their weapon.

A similar incident happened in June at the same gun range. Yes indeed, We remember well.

In that case, an Orange County corrections officer accidentally shot himself in the leg.

Mina dismissed any connection, saying it was two different incidents and two different agencies. Oh but there is! The connection is the obviously incompetent TTPs and personnel at the facility.

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/orange-county-deputy-injured-during-training-after-accidentally-discharging-weapon?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark