Thoughts On The 1911… Again

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The amount of people on the web ready to tell you how unreliable the 1911 is,  may approach the population of China or India. Even some bigger name instructors wishing to get more attention by saying things controversial  blather on about it even when they really do not know as much about it as they would have you think.  One thing to keep in mind is that  just because you can teach people to shoot, does not mean you are always a good judge of the tools themselves. Then again, they got  guns with their names on them they have to sell for the companies that handed them a check.

Among all this babble I noticed  Bravo company has a joint 1911 project with Wilson combat. Obviously the gun is only made by Wilson,but the idea is you get a very expensive high end 1911 with all the things the “BCM Gunfighter instructors” say a 1911 needs.  I am skeptical to say the least.  I am going to make an assumption and say the Bravo boys are most likely hard core Glock, M&P and other striker fired and DA/SA shooters.  Not the guys I really think need to tell me what a 1911 needs. In addition, I highly doubt Wilson needs anyone to tell them how to make a 1911.

Now, if you read this website you know how I feel about 1911s made to hard/tight fit with all the other custom gunsmith alchemy added with the price reaching ever high levels.  To sum up. I am not a fan.  I think a proper made Milspec 1911 with a few touches is really all you need if you really want a serious use 1911. Not for target or competition work more than things that will abuse it.  My rule of thumb with 1911s are , over 800 but under 1800.   Its a good bet with a few exception over or under that price range is counter productive if you want a 1911 made the way it was meant to be.  I have talked about this at great length before.

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The 1911 pictured is for lack of a better term, my training 1911.  It is a Colt XSE Government model. It is, with two exception, as Colt sold it  from the box.  I took off the ambi safety, not because I do not like them, but because I wanted something closer to what plain GI and what I may run across if I am forced to pick up and use a 1911 that is not mine and it forces me to deal with a single safety in drills to make it harder.  The other change is I added a 1911A1 WW2 main spring housing arched and with a lanyard loop. I did this because I like it, and because it goes along with a certain idea I had in mind for the gun that I will go into at a later time.

I have been very rude to this gun. In the winter, it was thrown into muddy, icy water and frozen in sub freezing temps . I pulled it out and fired it with no problems. I fished it out of the water,  broke the gun from battery to drain the water and fired it.

I have used this gun very hard over the years and I never clean it.  I only oil it.  Over the weekend while shooting, I tossed it on the ground and kicked dirt all over it and in it and shot it.

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While I did get a face full of dirt on the first few shots every time I threw it down and kicked it around int the dirt, it never stopped.  Fellow looseorunds  writer Adam was with me taking pictures. He has been seeing me abuse 1911s for a few years and has started to have a major change of opinion on them after seeing my torture. The simple fact is, 1911s made right , work. Cheap 1911s will not work.  The guns rep suffers because everyone and their mentally challenged brother in law make them. Some better than others. When some new trainer sees one of these lesser guns fail in a class, the run all over the net proclaiming it as junk.  Indeed some are. But not the ones made correctly to the proper specs. Not a hard fit gun. Not a MIM filled piece of garbage  like a currently popular brand who fools many with custom features. Not some cast made piece that falls apart as you shoot it. External extractors, MIM parts. Cast guns.  JMB, Colt nor the army every mentioned any of that when making the military’s longest serving combat pistol still being used today when made correctly.

It does not have to be super tight. It does not need cost over 2 grand. It can be loose and rattle a little.  None of that hurts a proper 1911.

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A proper 1911 will last a very long time. The myth of 5,000 round barrels is also a common one.  It is simply untrue. This guns has close to 24,000 rounds through it and I can still hit thrown skeet.And that is while is is caked in dirt and mud and filth

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John Travis. gunsmith and writer for Rangehot speaks more eloquently on the 1911 than I can.  His posts are informative and technical as he dis spells many of the tired old myths and  just plain bullshit running out of the mouths of some of the younger generation of firearms instructors.   If you really like the 1911 or want to learn more, Go check these links out. You will learn something you did not know.

http://rangehot.com/no-tool-detail-strip-1911/

http://rangehot.com/1911-now/

http://rangehot.com/obsolete-1911/

http://rangehot.com/author/1911tuner/page/2/

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