Swiss Bunkers


All very cool but probably now worthless in the face of laser guided precision munitions of the modern world.

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  1. Perhaps laser guided weapons make them a bit useless but would be great to have one when the beer virus army goes on a rampage!

    I think the good folks at PSA have a kit available for those wanting to make one which includes 80% artillery,fire up your routers!

    • I intended to comment on how tough they would be to take in WW2 or the era before smart bombs and all that but I forgot, Im a bit distracted this week

        • yea, some personal things have me stressed in the extreme this week . Thats why you are seeing me starting to post at 7-8Am instead of starting around 10 or 11.

          • I was razzing you, buddy. I think we all have a lot on our minds this week. I can’t seem to rub two thoughts together.

            Take care, and if you need anything, drop me a line.

    • The Korean stuff is interesting, in that there’s a lot more of it, and that it is way less sophisticated. Yet, at the same time, there’s a lot of sophistication in the execution of it all.

      There were roughly five or so successive lines of defense between the DMZ and Seoul. Each line had pre-dug positions, with tank traps, demolition targets, and all the rest of what you’d need to defend with. The interesting thing was how thoroughly planned-out it all was, because you’d fall in on an Korean position and there would be brass-plated pre-prepared range cards set in for your MG tripods, complete with firing tables to lock the tripods into so that you could just put the gun in, dial in your T & E, and away you went. In theory, you could occupy the defense line in the dark and be delivering fire at targets you’d never even seen in daylight.

      The Swiss, to my knowledge, had a bunch of pre-built bunkers, but limited actual field fortifications. The Koreans basically reversed that, with extensive field fortifications and very limited permanent-type positions. Different mindsets, different budgets, and far different resulting defensive works.

      The one I’d have liked to have seen worked out was the proposed fortification zone for the West German side of the Inner German Border. The idea there was to rework everything in the countryside such that you’d have perfectly placed kill zones for your weapons, and successive fall-back positions essentially built in to the countryside. This would have required a lot of work; you’d wind up turning a lot of farmer’s fields into forest, and a bunch of forest into open fields in order to make the terrain more defensible. The Germans didn’t want to go for it, because it would have meant a total re-hash of a swathe of land from the Baltic down to Austria, and then you’d have a modernized Maginot Line cluttering up the country. As a matter of fact, the Germans didn’t even want to actually cut the old Autobahn routes–If you were up on the border, you could see where they’d built and modernized the old routes almost up to the border, and were obviously planning for what would happen when reunification came. Germany had a really split personality when it came to that stuff–On the one hand, parts of the government were planning to fight Armageddon with the East, and on the other–They were planning for taking the place over and modernizing it back as long ago as the 1950s.

      South Korea used to have what they called the “Reunification Ministry”, and they’d run ads on TV and had a huge advertising/propaganda budget, all directed towards getting the public ready for the sacrifice of unification. They sent experts to observe what the Germans did with East Germany, and the resulting observations and calculations resulted in the near-immediate shutdown of the Reunification Ministry. Trying to bring North Korea up to modern standard was projected to cost a huge amount of money, money that the South Koreans simply didn’t want to spend. The numbers were truly gargantuan, like ten year’s GDP for South Korea spread over a generation or two.

      Long story short–Don’t look for a unified Korean peninsula any time soon. The real deal with North Korea is that nobody but nobody wants to wind up with that hot potato in their laps, and having to pay for it. I don’t doubt but that our own government is looking at that “you break it, you buy it” policy and saying “Yeah, not until we haven’t got any other choice…”. North Korea is going to be a break-the-bank proposition for someone, and I doubt that even an international effort could really afford it.

  2. How to bankrupt a major power with laser-guided munitions:

    Build enough phony bunkers (out of wire mesh and Bond-o if necessary) with fake pipes sticking out of them to cause the major power to bankrupt themselves by hurling mega-buck missiles at phony concrete bunkers.

    As in all warfare, Sun Tzu provides instruction on how to defeat even a technologically superior enemy.


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