Many takeaways from this video. The police should have shot this guy long before he had an officer on the ground in the middle of the street. At one point you see the cop shooting him, it failing and him turning and trying to run. He should have been emptying his mag instead of yelling at him. He could not have stopped shooting. They are supposedly trained to not panic in a situation like this. Easy to say I know. But these are the people who have the power over your life and are trusted with protecting you. You have to wonder if this officer had been trained on a failure to stop drill.
It’s scary to think about. One hit from that blade is almost certain to at the least maim you for life. You are looking at a very deep wound severing nerves etc. Maybe a lost limb. I’ve seen machete wounds to the head because I am the kind of sicko that goes to bestgore dot com. ( don’t go to that site unless massive amounts of gore don’t bother you) and there are no small machete wounds when those wounds are made with intent to hurt.
I also can’t help to assume a lot of it was the SJW policies of the L.A. higher ups and the fear the cop had of backlash that would come from having to end one of the protected class. Either way that was not some mighty fine police work on his behalf.
If you are new to self defense and just started to carry concealed and watching and reading this Do not let some one get that close to you if they are coming at you with a blade of any size and with intent.
Last year BARFCOM user ,”anesvick” told this lethal self defense story. These things never happen the exact same way twice but there is also something to be learned from every single one.
It was a normal Tuesday
night, I was in the process of making tacos, as we had invited the
older two kids over for dinner. I had just got a text from my wife that
she was on the way home from the YMCA and that the youngest had gone
home with his sister. This was a VERY good thing, as he didn’t witness
anything…. I don’t even want to think how traumatic it would have been
8PM rolls around, I hear someone screaming bloody murder. I figured
it was kids playing outside. I saw my wife’s car sitting out front so I
went outside to say hi. I walked outside to my wife screaming “My God,
he’s gonna kill her!” as she’s on the phone with 911, and see my
neighbor across the street striking his girlfriend in the face while
she’s sitting on the ground, as the girlfriends 9 year old daughter hits
the dude in the back with what looks like an aluminum T-ball bat. He
grabbed the kid and threw her about six feet.
This occurred in
seconds. At that point, when I saw the dude pick up the bat, I ran
inside and grabbed my handgun off my desk and went back out. I did not
want to see someone get their head caved in. When I came back, at this
point, the daughter had run in the house, and he had the woman down on
the ground and was trying to choke her with the bat on her neck. I
crossed the street, came to the ready position, and told him to get his
ass off of her or he would be shot. This distracted him enough that she
got him off her and he stood up and looked at me. I ordered him to sit
his ass down and wait for the police, he threw the bat toward me.. at
this point, the woman ran inside with her daughter and locked the door
and he sat on his porch.
At this point, I’m just waiting for the
police to arrive… he had other ideas. At this point, he stood up,
shouted “YOU DON’T KNOW ME MOTHERFUCKER”, and started rapidly moving
toward me, I started retreating backward, around 10-15 feet but I knew
that my wife was back there, along with one of the other witnesses, so I
couldn’t just run home… this guy was going to hurt anyone he could
get his hands on, or beat my ass and take my gun away if I let him get
too close.. he was quite a bit bigger than me and definitely spent a
good amount of time at the gym. When he was about 5 feet away he lunged
at me, and I shot him four times in rapid succession. The whole time
he was approaching me I was yelling “STOP, DON’T DO IT!, STOP!, STOP!”
His legs just collapsed under him and I will never forget seeing the
blood rushing out. At this point my wife told 911 that he had been
shot and I was told to put the weapon down so I sat it on the back of my
wife’s car and just stood there and shook, and waited. The cops got
there 30 seconds after I had shot… 30 seconds. The whole situation
lasted from 8:00PM to 8:03PM when the wife hung up with 911 after the
I remember, after the shooting, feeling like the
world is coming crashing in on me. The first officer put me in cuffs
and had me sit in the back of the car while they did the preliminary
investigation. He was extremely kind. I remember sitting in the back of
the car praying for the soul of the man I had been forced to shoot,
praying for the mom and daughter, praying for the well being of my
family. While I was in the car, I noticed that my left hand and arm was
covered in blood spatter. The evidence tech took pictures of this, and
then the officer helped wipe me off. During this time also, one of the
lady officers on scene sat in the vehicle to use the computer, and said
to me,”You know that you’re a hero to that woman and little girl.” That
remark helped to calm me down a lot. About 2-3 hours later, the
officer came back to the car and told me that the county prosecutor, who
was on scene, had told him to uncuff me. He told me to just stick
around but don’t touch anything, I would have to go to the station and
make a statement. I asked if I could go into my apartment and see my
family and he graciously allowed that, I just wasn’t allowed to talk to
my wife about anything regarding the situation, as we had not made our
statements. I went back outside and was approached by the Chief of
Police for our town and he said,’What you did was heroic, you saved
them.’ He told me that they had had prior dealings with the man and that
he was a dangerous individual.
Fast forward another hour, and
I’m sitting in the office area of the police station waiting to make my
statement, watching the officers check in the evidence… I saw them
check in my gun and they confirmed that I had fired four times, I wasn’t
sure if it was four or five, and that there was blood on the slide,
they checked in the bat, and they checked in a chunk of hair and scalp
that had come from the mother. And a few other miscellaneous things.
I was sitting there, finally in some kind of light, I noticed blood
stains all over my shirt and pants. He was REALLY close when I shot
him. Anyway, gave my statement, kept it simple and to the point. Had
my wife bring me new clothes so they could put mine in evidence and I
walked out and got in the car, and cried… a lot… probably the most
I’ve cried since my mother died in 2000. My wife said to me,”I used to
say that my father was my hero, but no, you’re now my hero”. My wife
had gone through a similar domestic violence situation with her first
husband and barely escaped alive, I couldn’t be there to protect her
from him, but I could be there for this. The officers thanked me
repeatedly for being cooperative and they were completely awesome, I
have nothing but love for them.
I’ve gotten a few more details as
time has passed. Apparently he had told her that one way or another
that he was going to die that night and was going to take her with him.
I know that they had had some rough spots, they lost a baby back in
January. My son works with his brother in law, and he was described as a
I picked up my firearm (Sig M11-A1) a month after
everything had happened, and the PD had cleaned the blood off of it and
oiled it to prevent rust, thank you again to them.
The call I got from the prosecutor this last Monday was
illuminating. I asked about the toxicology screen, and his BAC was
.228, and he had THC and anti-depressants in his system. The prosecutor
was not sure about steroids as he said that they generally do not test
for that. All I know is that he charged someone that had a loaded
weapon pointed at him, so something broke inside his head.
shooting for the first time since the event this last Saturday.. and it
just felt good… this is the hobby that got me through the deaths of
both parents, and countless other stressful life events.
heard the word hero used multiple times… I’m not a hero, I only did
what I had to do so that I can face myself in the mirror every day. The
heroes are the guys that do stuff like this every day, The police, fire
departments, the armed forces. They keep walking back into the mouth
of hell repeatedly to save others. They are heroes.. I’m just a regular
guy trying to keep my little corner of the world safe.
thing I’ll never forget, a male neighbor screaming ‘My God, won’t
somebody help her!’ while he stood there and watched…. I don’t know
how to feel about that, it just saddens me at the end of the day.
And a big thank you to my daughter for being there for her mother
and I, and my son in law for watching his brother in law so that he did
not have to see the scene.
Take aways from this.
1> I need formal training.. I’m ok, but I could be a lot better.
My wife is also offering to go, which is a first, she needs to be able
to defend herself when I’m not around. I think she understands that
2> CCW insurance? Is it worth it? I know that I was
lucky in that I live in a gun friendly state with good politicians, it
could have gone far worse legally.
Questions, comments, conjecture, I’ll take whatever you guys and
gals have. This is the first time I’ve really put anything down and it
has been kind of cathartic in a way.
ETA: I drew up a map of the
incident… him in red, me in blue, and all other pertinent information.
As close to scale as my wife and I can recollect.
Today he posted up his thoughts and feelings on it one year later.
“Well, his corpse is well decomposed, and life has calmed down. My wife still has nightmares and flashbacks, and so do I occasionally, but nowhere near like it was.
He wanted to die, I wanted to live..
That simple, I guess. I’ll never understand why someone would throw a
decent life and career away because they want to imbibe large amounts of
alcohol and stay in a bad relationship. I know he had his own demons
from the death of his son but damn man! I’m not dying for your ass nor
am I going to let you kill a defenseless person in front of me!
I still think about it nearly every day. It’s not life altering like it was, but the thoughts are there.
The other day I wrote about what I would buy if I were starting over. Article here.
Some people have complained about that article, and seem to think that I am telling them to buy what I would buy. That the stuff I talked about is too expensive, etc. I never said you need to buy a Colt 6945 and set it up EXACTLY the way I have mine set up.
That write up was about what I would buy if a fire or hurricane, etc destroyed my collection. For example, one bit I omitted, I love my M203. I wouldn’t recommend it as a serious gun for anyone (unless you have a source for HEDP). I find mine so very fun that it would be one of the first guns I’d order a replacement if mine were destroyed in a disaster or lost in a boating accident.
If you read that last article, you now know what I would be ordering if I was standing in a gun shop with an insurance check right after a tragic disaster.
When people ask me what guns to buy, I give the same answer. Colt 6920 with an Aimpoint PRO and a Glock 19.
The quote above was the very second paragraph in that previous article.
Let us think about this for a moment.
If someone who has no guns, suddenly for what ever reason, decides they need/want a gun. That is a complicated situation. “Why?” becomes the important question. If they are only interested in hunting cape buffalo, the advise for them would be very different than someone who is in fear of their life because of a local gang.
Generally it is our assumption that someone is going to buy a firearm for two main reasons. Protection of life & liberty as well as for the fun and joys of shooting.
Most any firearm can be fun to shoot, but not every gun is a good choice for self defense.
I always recommend the Glock 19, but plenty of other Glock models are available at good prices used. J&G Sales has used Glock 42s for $350. Other vendors have G22 for $270, G23s for $340. There are some LE trade in Gen 3 G19s for $380 shipped to your dealer, that includes 3 magazines. The .45 GAP model Glocks are nearly being given away at $260 or so.
Why a Glock? They work, and tend not to be fucked up by previous owners. There are less people taking files to the guts of the Glock than their 1911, Highpowers, etc. They are common and extremely easy to service. There are a great deal of cheap Beretta 96 .40 cal hand guns out there, but if a novice has a mechanical issue, it is so much harder to work on.
Someone out there is going to advocate some C&R or surplus gun like a CZ82 , PA63, or a Star/Lama, etc. Now some of these guns are great guns. Some of them have broken and sitting in a box for five decades. You are still generally talking at least $200 for many of these, and if it breaks or doesn’t work it you might not be able to get replacement parts. Many of these old blued steel guns can rust easily and require more maintenance than a Glock. Maintenance that a novice or spend thrift is not likely to do.
I could go on and on. If someone can buy a used Glock for $300, isn’t their life worth that cost?
They are still going to need to get some ammo, some training, time to practice. Buying a gun is just a very small part of the process of defending ones self and others.
Now once they have that Glock, they need to buy a Colt 6945 and set it up exactly like mine, the one above. Just joking. From the self defense side of things, many would not have need of a long arm. It irks me when people recommend a pump shotgun to the novice for home defense. While the shotgun has nearly countless merits, it is larger and heavier and most importantly a two handed weapon. Watch a novice holding a bad guy at gunpoint with a shotgun while trying to use their cell phone to contact the police. It is a mess. A shotgun will not easily be able to use it in a compact car to defend ones self. The point I am trying to get to is that a pistol is handier and most importantly, concealable. For the person worried about self defense that only has one gun, a pistol is what makes the most sense in our modern society.
There are tons of cool things out there, and plenty of cheap stuff out there, giving countless options. There are many good choices out there, but a used Glock handgun is just a very simple, less expensive, and easy way to get off on a good start.
Over here at LooseRounds.com we have a few gun enthusiasts who try to share some useful facts and opinions about guns. But we have to give credit where it is due, there are people out there that are so much more informed professional experts that we just can only pale in comparison to their knowledge.
Over in the news, in North Carolina a woman shot her self while at a Ruby Tuesdays. She ended up dying from her wound. I suppose that is one way to get out of paying a bill. Or maybe Ruby Tuesdays was just that bad.
I dunno, but there is another story to share about someone shooting them selves.
There is a long write up by a man who shot him self in the leg with his shotgun. Now we could easily start working through his story and try and make our selves feel better by pointing out his mistakes and saying that we would never do that. Instead lets give it a serious read and let his suffering be a lesson for us. I can learn from my mistakes, but I’d rather learn from some one else’s screw ups.
Never hurts to have a reminder of how bad we can screw up in an instant.