ARFCOM user ,JAG2955 had an interesting oopsie with his silencer
So in like 30 hours into actually having my Silencerco Summer Promo 2018 Octane 9.
Got an ILWT 3 lug and the Silencerco adapter on it.
Load up some 115gr Lawman for my MPX.
20 rd mag-shoot one, no end cap strike, seems like in good to go. Two sets of 5, checking the mount each time. Accuracy starts getting bad, so I clear and grab the can to see how hot it is. Not bad, let’s remove it.
Oh fuck, it’s twisting!
I installed it with Rocksett a month ago, WTF?
Get the can off, thinking the Rocksett let go for some reason. Aaaand an end cap strike.
Let me check my precious tube. Tube looks okay.
Remove SiCo 3 lug adapter, and I see why the muzzle device is loose.
3 lug now has speed holes.
some frag shown in pics.
I’m sad now, but I’m certain ILWT will make it right.
I have no use for a welrod noradesire to own one, but this is pretty cool.
I saw a few pics on social media recently of a guy shooting a Welrod clone pistol made by Innovative Arms in So Carolina. I’ve wanted one of these for 10+ years so I reached out to Innovative via email and got a return phone call from the owner yesterday and was pretty excited to learn he’s building a list of interested “Welrod” customers. His “prototype” pictured below is .32acp and is entirely scratch built by them, he claims the suppression is excellent and the internals are upgraded to a more modern serviceable baffle system with a single wipe at the muzzle. He said that he’s about 8-12 months backlogged with current orders right now so it will be at least that long, but as I said I’ve been looking for a decent clone for over 10 years, so I’ll wait. The prototype he made was done for personal use and testing on manual machines so the pricing for a CNC made unit isn’t all worked out but a $1200-$1400 ballpark is what he was thinking.
If interested, the email address to use to get on the list is firstname.lastname@example.org. Just put “Please add me to the Welrod waiting list” in the subject line and include your contact info.
I’m sure you guys are sick of me talking about 40mm accessories, but too bad, I’m still excited about it.
Back in 2006 prior to deploying to Iraq my peers and I (but mostly me) spent lots of time in the various tactical stores in Oceanside California spending money on all sorts of stuff that was mostly useful.
One of the new guys was assigned to carry a M203. Well many of them were, for some odd reason the platoon I was in was very M203 heavy. About two of them per team vs the normal one per four man fireteam. Our guys were not issues any pouches for holding 40mm rounds, so they were often dumped in a cargo pocket or saw drum pouch. But one of the guys in my platoon found and purchased a Blackhawk 40mm pouch and I always thought it was a pretty neat piece of kit.
There are similar pouches out there, and some of the other ones look quite nice. But the ones I’ve seen also appear bigger and bulkier than this one. I wanted to get a pouch to hold 40mm rounds, so I started looking for one of these Blackhawk pouches. Many places labeled it as discontinued, or had new old stock at very high prices. I did end up finding a seller that had these new for cheap. I paid less than $15 shipped. I’m very happy with that price. Part number is 37CL59
This pouch is pretty big. The back has MOLLE/PALS/Strike/ETC webbing. Blackhawk includes their “speed clips” for mounting it. There is also a thicker webbing section so you can use ALICE clips. The pouch is fairly deep so you can put longer illumination/flare rounds. Velcro on the flap allows you to velcro the flap open. There is also a snap for additional retention along with a sizeable amount of velcro hook and loop. The fine sand in Iraq could gum up hook and loop material so having a snap gives you another option in inclement conditions.
I don’t think I have seen the Blackhawk Speed Clips before. They are much faster to attach and remove than MALICE or TacTies, etc. I question if they are as durable or good a choice for long term/permanent mounting. I found a good video showing their use on Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DdEGCxxcgw
Elastic straps in the pouch allow you to secure 6 rounds in side the pouch. It isn’t hard to stuff an additional 2 between the two rows. If you were not using the straps you might be able to stuff in even more rounds, but I haven’t tried yet.
The pouch is pretty big if you stuff in 8 rounds, but the cover handles it just fine. With the recommended 6 rounds the pouch is about 6 by 6 by 3 inches.
One last major note is that the bottom of the pouch is mesh. This lets water and debris fall the out the bottom. It also lets all that water and debris in the pouch to begin with. Eh, IMHO it isn’t a good or bad feature.
Now you might be asking, why not just use a bandolier?
Back in 2006, I don’t think any of us had seen a modern 40mm bandolier. There were the fabric 6 shot ones that 40mm rounds came in, but I didn’t see a modern bandolier until we saw the Army guys rocking them. We would see Army and National Guardsmen carrying around 20-30+ 40mm rounds. Hell, our guys were lucky if they had 6 HEDP at any given time. For us, a bandolier would have been overkill. I’ve read grenadiers complain that the 40mm bandolier would flop around, be slow to reload from, allowed rounds to get dirty and damaged, and that the bright gold nose cones of HEDP would draw attention and be a target indicator for the enemy.
I think it partially comes down to what you need. If you need to carry a bunch of 40mm round, a bandolier would be handier than several pouches. Or if you are handing off the launcher from one person to another a bandolier could also be transferred easier. But for a few rounds for my own launcher, I’d rather have them in an enclosed pouch.
Lantac is pleased to announce that it has completed development of
its latest Dragon Muzzle Brake that features the Dead Air KEYMO mounting
system. Lantac’s range of Dragon muzzle brakes are industry leading
products that fundamentally improve the way firearms function, reducing
muzzle recoil to zero and giving shooters maximum muzzle control for
fast and accurate follow up shots. The Dragon range of brakes are so
effective that there is no ‘knock off’ from target and even full auto
fire is possible with hugely improved accuracy.
For the first time shooters can now enjoy advanced weapon control
with the ability to mount the entire range of Dead Air Sandman® KEYMO
silencers to their firearms.
The Sandman range of silencers are manufactured with solid welded
Stellite® baffle cores and detachable front caps. Exteriors surfaces are
Cerakote® finished for ultimate durability.
Dragon brakes are precision manufactured on Swiss lathes and machined
from AISI4150 steel that is then hardened to 48-52Rc (Rockwell C) and
QPQ (Quench Polish Quench) Nitrided to AMS2753D standards for enhanced
corrosion resistance and improved lifespan.
The mount design is fully licensed from Dead Air, therefore customers suppressor warranty remains unaffected.
Ships with timing shim set.
Lantac recommends the use of semi-permanent thread locker Rocksett, sold separately.
While browsing the internet, I found that people were selling threaded adapters for the M1Garand for under $20. I got this one for about $16 shipped.
For $16 dollars I couldn’t pass this up.
I screwed on a Surefire flash hider mount and placed this on the rifle for the picture above.
But, the M1Garand is probably not a good choice for suppressing. If you don’t adjust the gas system for it, you could bend the op-rod or break the receiver. An adjustable gas plug would probably be a necessity. I don’t plan to fire the Garand silenced, and I don’t trust a $16 dollar adapter that goes around the barrel to be concentric to the bore. But it is kinda fun to know that I could do it if I wanted too.
As great as silencers are, there are times they are not ideal.
An example of when it would be a poor choice due to the physics and mechanical problems would be when you are doing high volumes of fire from guns like the M249 SAW. Not only is a high volume of fire hard on the silencer, there can be other problems. Multiple sources report that the M249 barrel can get hot enough to melt the lead cores of the bullets causing them to destabilize enough to cause baffle strikes destroying silencers. Even on a semi-auto rifle, a silencer is far from ideal when you are doing very high volume rapid fire.
I recall hearing a story about some of our guys in the Vietnam war. The writer reports that he was carrying a silencer submachine gun and he observed when his group was trying to break contact with the enemy that his gun would not suppress them. Funny way to turn a phrase, but the guys with unsilenced firearms could fire in the direction of the enemy and cause them to duck and slow their movement. But if he fired a burst at them from his silenced SMG, the enemy didn’t realized they were being fired on, and continued their advancing attack.
There may be times when a silencer isn’t the best choice. Still I’d rather have a silencer and have the option to take it off than not have one at all.