I love a good shoot out movie. I have always loved them and very few are as iconic and legendary as The Wild Bunch. It was, at one time the most graphic and intense shoot out on screen. It was controversial at the time and a lot of people complained about it as being ultra violent. It is certainly violent but it has a lot more going on than just a great gun fight at the end. It is one of my all time favorite gunfight/western movies and not just because of the guns.
If you have not seen it, i will be talking about a few plot points and spoiling the ending here so be warned on that. Anyone who has not seen it needs to do so as fast as possible because you have been missing out,
The Wild Bunch is mainly about a gang of aging outlaws and gunfighters after the turn of the century. The movies starts with them robbing a bank to get enough money for possible retirement but it turns out to be an ambush where almost all of them are killed. They then take refuge into Mexico where they realize their days of living like they had been, are about over and they are a dying breed. They get mixed in with some Mexican revolution Hi-jinks while a former partner now working for the rail road who they stole from in the past is trying to hunt them down, they steal 1903 rifles from the US Army for the Mexicans to use, in return for gold payment from the Mexican general ravaging the countryside.
After they steal the guns they do let one of their gang members keep a case of the rifles for his poor villager friends and family to defend against same Mex general. He is found out, and is taken by the Mexican army and tortured while the rest of the gang goes on with the gold since there is nothing they can do.
After building guilt for abandoning their friend, they decided to go take him back from the Mexican General and his men, though they really know it is going to be their end in a blaze of glory. And that is exactly what happens after their pal is killed by the Mexican army after they demand his return and the leader guns down the General. They do kill about 1/4 the population of Mexico before being killed themselves.
The ending shoot out is intense and hyper violent with very graphic for the time, blood splattering from the gun shot wounds. it is a really great pay off, but there is some great stuff in the middle.
The movie has always really resonated with me in a few ways with some powerful themes and moments.
One of the things that appealed to me is the friendship between the gang members, Especially the leader and his right hand man. They stick by each other and defend each other from the other members of the gang during tense arguments. His friend never questions his leadership and is loyal to the end. Indeed even his last word is the name of his friend Pike’s name as he dies. Still concerned about his friend even at the end.
At one point in the middle of the film, the leader, Pike, tells his pal why he limps. He was shot in the leg by the jealous husband of the only woman he ever loved. He was caught by the husband with her and was hit in the leg and the woman killed. Pike was not able to kill the man, and it has haunted him ever since.
The outlaws relationship with women in the film is interesting as well. As above, PIke is shown to be very tender toward his dead lover. At another point, they have arrived at the home town of the mexican member of their gang to find out his sweet heart has ran off with the corrupt Mexican General. Later when they meet the General he confronts his one time love and sees her laughing at him in the General’s lap. In a rage he stands and screams “Puuuuttttaaa” and shoots her in the chest with his 1911 killing her. At the end of the film, in the final climactic battle Pike turns his back to a Mexican prostitute and is shot in the back by her. He turn to her and exclaims “bitch”! and guns her down. This comes after minutes earlier, he paid a poor young beautiful mexican prostitute with a young child more money than she expected after being with her. Then deciding to go out in a blaze of glory.
After the final fight, the village square is full of the dead ad wounded. PIke still has his hand wrapped around the Machine gun he had been mowing down Mexican bandits with even in death. His old partner who had been reluctantly hunting him for the rail road to avoid spending his like in jail comes across his old friend. He looks down and sees his old friends Colt 45 revolver still in its holster unfired.
Throughout the movie, Pike and the rest of the gang had been using the new, at the time, Colt 1911 Automatic pistol, caliber 45 ACP. The revolver was the sidearm Pike had spent the most time with. No doubt it was his baby and well loved it was from a time before his 1911 came along and with it more modern guns obviously signifying the end of their era. Pike had still carried his older Colt because he loved it and was not willing to forget it or the memories of his prime it no doubt reminded him of. Pike and the boys all used 1911s for the entire movie. But PIke still always had his Colt Peacemaker on his hip. This is where it was when the outlaws who had outlived their age came to their end. Never even fired.
The times had moved on and changed without the outlaws changing with it. They refused to adapt into a new world they did not like. Pike still held onto his old shooter and died with it on.
His old best friend and partner comes across his body and removes the Colt and takes it with him. He stays in Mexico with the last survivor of the old gang and goes to fight in the revolution trying to preserve or hold onto the old days the best he can while he can, with Pike’s relic from a past age.
The Wild Bunch is a great movie but it is not just a great gun fight with great old actors. William Holden plays the outlaw leader, Pike and does it so well, you really see the pain and regret in his eye and the seriousness and resolve as he leads his last friends and gang to their last suicidal glory filled fire fight.
Pictured are single examples from two pairs of Bates footwear I have. A Leather Durashock Oxford on the left and a 5″ Tactical Sport Boot on the right.
As you can see both have had serious issues with their soles. The soles on both of the Oxfords have begun to disintegrate and crack, leaving chunks behind if walked in. On the other hand, while the Sport Boot sole is intact, it decided to completely separate itself from the rest of the boot. The sole on its left foot twin is still, barely, holding on, but has some serious gaping and is not likely to stay on much longer.
While it would be one thing if both pairs of footwear had miles and miles of wear on them, that is not the case. The Oxfords have been worn only sparingly, probably less than 25 times since I’ve owned them, and strictly to formal occasions. Now the Sport Boots have seen more outdoor use, but as you can see by the lack of treadwear on the now independent sole and the lack of wear on the boot leather, they’ve not seen that much use. Certainly not enough time to justify the sole falling completely off.
In short, I do not recommend Bates footwear.
We here at Loose Rounds have had good luck with Merrell, Danner, and Salomon brand footwear. I would go that direction for your boot/shoe needs.
-An addendum from Howard:
I’ve owned many Bates shoes and boots. Bates were what I was issued in the USMC and the soles would quickly wear out and stitching would come undone. Prior to going to Iraq I bought a pair of Bates Lites to use for Iraq, they came unstitched and were unusable after two weeks. Bates boots are the most comfortable boots I have ever used, but they don’t hold up at all.
This happen recently at a gun range that I use frequently. The range officer gave me permission to share the photos. This happened with a new shooter and his new, very expensive custom 1911. The shooter was using Parabellum Research (PBR) ammunition when he had a squib round and fired the next round into the squib. Luckily the frame and slide held up well and did not appear to be damaged. Only the barrel had been damaged. The manufacturer of the ammunition is taking care of the firearm owner. The range advised it has been having problems with this particular ammunition manufacturer.
It is important as a shooter to quickly identify when you have had a squib round, to avoid firing then next round into it and blowing your barrel and firearm up. If you have the money to buy a custom built very expensive firearm, (no matter what it is), don’t shoot low quality / cheap ammunition through it to save a few cents. You had the money to buy the firearm so don’t get cheap on the ammo. While this can happen with any ammunition, if you buy known quality factory or premium factor ammunition, this will lessen the chances of having a squib or catastrophic failure.
Suggested and compiled by Max Boom on Facebook
A SENSIBLE GUN CONTROL PROPOSAL
In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln,
President of the United States.
In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield,
President of the United States who later died from the wound.
In 1963 a radical left wing Democrat socialist shot and killed John F.
Kennedy, President of the United States.
In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.
In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.
In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and
killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
In 1986 Patrick Sherrill,a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.
In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10
people at a GMAC office.
In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria in Killeen, TX.
In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.
In 1999 Larry Ashbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.
In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.
In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung-Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people at Virginia Tech.
In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.
In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.
In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school in Newtown, CT.
As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat named Aaron Alexis shot 12 at the Washington Navy Shipyard in Washington, D.C.
Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservative was involved in any of these shootings and murders.
Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns.
IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR DEMOCRATS TO OWN GUNS.
I think it is possible that there are people in the world you can hate so much that it is impossible to find a word for the intensity of that hate. It is like the heat of a million exploding suns. No stranger to hating people myself, I can not think of anyone I hate more than my ex wife or osama bin laden ., except for this thing. Certainly, if you read this website, you are the kind of person already familiar with it. obama better watch out, he has a strong competitor easing up on his position.
If you have a twitter account, I would suggest twitting your thoughts to this twit.
This is my (very short) opinion on the Colt AR6720 Lightweight LE Carbine.
I constantly have people asking my opinion of what basic AR type rifle is best for them, to use for home defense and/or duty or patrol rifle use. ” Should I get a Colt or equivalent M4 type carbine?” Many who ask me these questions are my current coworkers, officers I have worked with in law enforcement and people I have trained or train with. One thing we can all agree on at Loose Rounds is Colt is the way to go when looking for a duty AR15 type carbine. Whether you want a plinker, a hard use training, home defense or duty carbine, the Colt AR15-A4 Lightweight LE Carbine is one of the best. As with all Colt rifles, you know you are getting the (“Mil-Spec”) features and HPT/MPI testing of the important individual parts in the 6720.
I have used several variants of the AR15 platform for duty use in semi auto and full auto versions. These range from; The standard Colt M4 14.5″ Carbine (LE6921/ RO977), LE 16″ Carbine (LE6920), 11.5″ Commando (LE6933/R0933) and Government Carbine (AR6520). When I look at an all around purpose carbine, that can fill multiple roles, I think of the Colt AR6720. The Colt AR6720 has been out since 2009 and was a request by a distributor (Clydes) for Colt to update the 6520 Government Carbine. It is basically a 6520 Gov. Carbine (LW Gov barrel) with an M4 marked flat top upper with M4 feed ramps.
The AR6720, in my opinion, is the best all around performer in the AR15 carbine patrol setting. You have the reliability, accuracy, and modularity you have come to expect from the AR15 platform. For me the AR6720 seams to handle just right. The handling and transitions in movement of the 6720 are awesome. The carbine seams to be a seamless extension of your arms and fingers. It is a joy to shoot. It is the most well balanced, fast and easy handling 16″ AR I have used. For me, handles like the familiar 11.5″ commando, just with a longer barrel. The stock weight comes in right at 6.12 lbs. With the (MIL-B-11595E CMV) Chrome Lined 1/7 twist barrel in 5.56mm, it will handle any ammo you want to put down range. If you choose the right accessories and enhancements, you will not add to much to the weight. I have owned numerous AR carbines and the 6720 is one of my favorites. It just might be my favorite.
The only complaint, some people may have, is the 6720 does not have an “F” marked FSB. This is a non-issue. The FSB comes with a taller front sight post, making up for the lower shelf on the FSB, for zeroing with any BUIS you choose.
I have chosen to set my 6720 up, in the following configuration, per my personal preferences. With a loaded 30 round magazine, I am still within the 6 lbs. range. This maximizes performance and handling of my patrol carbine needs out to 200 yards, although the Colt AR6720 is very capable of excellent performance well past 200.
- GG&G MAD BUIS
- Tango Down Battle Grip
- Daniel Defense Omega 7 Rail
- BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle (Mod4)
- Aimpoint Micro w/ADM mount
- Tactical Link Z-360 mount and Convertible Sling
- Lancer L5 Translucent AWM magazine
At current prices, you can find the AR6720 in the 800 dollar range. I feel there is no argument or justification you can make, if your in the marked for a serious lightweight Defensive/Duty carbine, to buy another carbine at these prices. For a basic AR carbine, the Colt AR6720 is probably the best lightweight carbine purchase you can make. There are numerous articles on the accuracy of the 6720 and we have shown you how accurate a Colt carbine can be here on Loose Rounds. The 6720 is fast and smooth, and it will make the hits when it counts. If I was still patrolling on the street, the Colt AR6720 would be in my cruiser and it would be my go to patrol carbine.
Here is a good video with more info and shooting, by Mrgunsngear, on the AR6720:
Cassie Larsen submitted this article.
The “Female Conceal Carry for Summer” article has been very popular. I know there is a lot of interest and a need, for more conceal carry information for women. I have found there is not a lot of information out there and I have had to do a lot of trial and error for this article. In this article you will see several Appendix Inside Waist Band (AIWB) holsters and Outside Waist Band (OWB) holsters. These holsters and companies are as follows; a Dark Star Gear holster, a custom AIWB kydex holster, a Raven Concealment Vanguard2 holster and Kinetic Concepts Tactical (KCT) holsters. Also, an I.C.E. Belly Band and Volund Gearworks Atlas Belt will be used. I will be showing you outfits that conceal a Glock 42, Sig P238, Glock 19, and a Smith & Wesson M&P Shield.
Sweaters with detail and skirts:
I’ve noticed when wearing a skirt and conceal carrying I have two options I can wear a looser waist skirt with the I.C.E. Belly Band and carry IWB or I can wear a skirt with loops, belt and carry OWB. It does become a bit tricky with high waist skirts. I have yet to find a comfortable carry option for those.
The great thing about this black sweater that you can’t see well in the pictures is that it has a fake wrap look with buttons on the front and side. With that extra detail on the front it hides any bulges from the firearm really well. I like to wear darker sweaters I find they hide the print of the firearm better. I also look for shirts or sweaters with added details; buttons, wrap, bunching, gathers, patterns.
Long Sweaters with leggings:
I love wearing a Belly Band with my leggings. It is very comfortable and with the I.C.E. Belly Band I have multiple options of what firearm I can carry. With this outfit a basic long sweater, leggings and tall boots I can wear my Sig P238, Glock 42, Glock 19 or Glock 26. With the Glock 19 or Glock 26 I use the I.C.E Glock open bottom holster, attach it to the Velcro on the Belly Band and carry at the 4 o’clock position. I.C.E store carries several holster to accommodate firearms you may carry.
I have many different long sweater legging combos and I love being able to just throw on a comfy outfit and still be protected. Most long sweaters have a fly away in the front. I like having the break away in the front so I can access my firearm quicker if needs be. I wear an under shirt, then my belly band with firearm, then an over shirt or tank top, then my sweater. It really adds no more bulk since my under shirt is basically a top slip. The main use of the undershirt is so I don’t have the firearm resting on my skin for long periods of time.
Work out clothing:
When I go for a walk with my kids or jog by myself, I like to bring along some protection. With the Belly Band and my Sig p238 or Glock 42 I can do that and I don’t have to wear a big bulky shirt or extra layers. If it’s cold I do add my workout hoodie, which only adds to the concealment. I usually wear yoga pants or shorts which I feel keeps my firearm more secure since the waist is tight.
Break away sweaters:
I use the same idea as the leggings with this breakaway front sweater, but use my kydex holsters. I prefer to appendix carry. It is the most comfortable for me. I can easily access my firearm with my kids, or holding shopping bags. I don’t have to worry about bending over to pick up my kids at the park or store and having my weapon print. I wear Silver jeans or Vigoss jeans and capris. I buy my regular size and have no problem carrying IWB. My carry belt is Volund Gearworks Atlas belt (Volund Gearworks Atlas Belt for Women). I’ve been wearing it almost daily for over a year and I still love it.
I really like wearing flowy light tops. This is a peasant type top, the fabric is light and not fitted at the bottom. Which conceals firearms really well for me. I have no problem with printing or the shirt getting stuck on the gun with appendix carry. The pattern on this shirt also helps with the concealment.
Banded bottom tops also work well for me to conceal carry with. They have more give to the middle of the shirt but with a fitted bottom. Some banded bottom shirts can be trickier if the band is at the same height as the holster. I like the tight bottom on banded shirts because I know the shirt isn’t going to move and expose my firearm. This particular top also has a low back so appendix carry or side carry work well. When it’s colder out I can still wear this tank top with a black jacket or cardigan which just adds to the concealment.
This is a great home-run shirt for me. It has pattern, detail and a banded bottom. The upper back detail is great to draw eyes up and away from my waist wear my firearm is. The diagonal stripe helps camouflage printing and the banded bottom helps the shirt stay in place. I really like to find combo tops I think they work great for most of my firearms. With this shirt I can carry any of my firearms with any holster at either the small of my back or at appendix. With small of the back carry I do have to be careful with bending over or picking something up because the firearm will print. Which is another reason why I love appendix carry.
Light weight Jackets:
A great thing about colder weather is you can throw on a jacket to any of your outfits which adds warmth and another layer of concealability. I’m wearing a simple long sleeve shirt which is not skin tight. With summer capris that work great with knee high boots, no need to fold and tuck the bottom of your jeans. I can wear this shirt alone and conceal the Shield fine or add the extra layer of a jacket. Since I’m appendix carrying I will still be able to quickly draw my firearm if needed. If you are carrying in the small of the back with a jacket on I recommend practicing drawing your firearm so you don’t get hung up on the extra material. This jacket snaps closed so if I did get cold and wanted to snap up I could still quickly undo my jacket if needed. Of course, cardigans and heavy jackets will work just the same.
There is no reason to lose your style just to carry a firearm. I suggest carrying on the body whenever possible. I recommend when shopping for new clothing to wear your firearm, that way you will know if it will conceal well and not print. Remember, darker colored clothing will conceal better than lighter colors. If you don’t have a good carry belt or holster, I recommend getting one. Having a quality holster and carry belt will help you conceal your firearm. If you have a good foundation in place you will be able to conceal with comfort, ease and style. A good foundation consists of a good holster, belt, firearm and clothing. Without all (4) of these key elements, you will have a harder time concealing your firearm.
I’ve showed you many different firearms, holsters and carrying positions as examples for you to find what works best for you. I don’t carry multiple firearms. Some days I do need to change my holster, belt or firearm to accommodate my outfit. Occasionally, I must change carrying positions between appendix, strong side traditional and 4 o’clock, based on the outfit I’m wearing. Appendix carry is where I consistently carry and consistency in your carry position is what you want. Like I said above, the appendix position works best for my daily life and my body type. The key is to find what works best for you most of the time and what you are the most comfortable carrying.
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Video has been released of Canadian SWAT storming an airplane. CNN has some video here. It is interesting to see their entry and their lack of hesitation to point the muzzles of their rifles at the passengers.
In the news there was a bit about ATF firearms training. The writer of the article states, “The M4 is a firearm with quite a bit of kick.” Gee whiz, I didn’t know that. They got to practice with an M4 (HK416), AK, MP5, and an Uzi because those are “all guns that ATF agents encounter on the streets.”
AR15.com forums had a post with a cute comic about gun control: