In The Basic School (TBS) Quantico, there was a problem with Marines getting DUIs or getting stuck out in town drunk.
Around 2004-2005ish, a solution was created. Called “Arrive Alive”, the Staff Duty would have a lockbox with some cash. The Staff Duty had a logbook and the key for this box. If a Marine who was out in town found them selves drunk and unable to drive, or unable to pay for a taxi for what ever reason, they could get a taxi to bring them on base to the Battalion Staff Duty Officer. Who ever this Staff NCO was, they would pay the taxi fare from the lock box and note who the Marine was. That Marine would then repay the cost by the next payday. If the Marine lived off base and it was not working hours, they could sleep in the room set aside for the Staff Duty Officer until they sobered up.
This way Marines could get safely to base. There would be no excuse for a DUI, since a Marine wouldn’t have to drive them selves, and if they were broke, they could still get a ride.
We had that for about a year with out anyone using it. Our superiors would mention it every liberty briefs and the like. Until finally someone did use it. This Marine was out in town, got drunk, and didn’t want to drive drunk back to base. So he got a taxi and used this “Arrive Alive” program.
In return, the command punished him. I can’t remember if this jarhead just got an Article 15, or a full blown NJP, but the command tried to punish him as much and in every way they could.
Sometimes people need help. But when we punish people who try to get help, we discourage everyone from getting help.
This applies to everything. It seems like every week I read or hear some story of a cop or soldier to afraid to report their PTSD due to fear of backlash, ridicule, punishment, appearing weak, etc.
Recently, there was news articles about the FBI taking credit for stopping a mass shooting. What happened was that the guy’s Grandmother noticed he had issues, and talked him into going to a hospital. The Grandmother is the real hero here, not the federal agents trying to take credit. This guy consented to a police search, and in return he is rewarded with charges and is facing up to 5 years of jail time.
Now, it does sound like this guy broke the law. It was likely foolish of him to consent to a search. But if we go after and punish every single person who asks for help, people are not going to ask for help.
I’m reposting an article from our early years today. I am trying to get some other things finished for later this week and so I don’t have a lot of time today for a new post. This one caused a lot of butthurt when it first went up. Some smaller full custom shops ( now Tango Uniform) did NOT like what I had to say and had some mean things to say about yours truly for a few weeks over this one.I’m sure some of the commentors will tell me how wrong I am all over again. Like last late summer/fall, I may post stuff from our early days for those who likely never saw it as we have a mountain of content in the back of the basement no one sees anymore.
This post is not easy to sum up with a short title. It
contains my thoughts on the 1911 in its custom form, if the high end
super pricey custom guns are worth it, And my thoughts on how they often
give the 1911 a bad rap by people who do not care to take the time to
understand some of the down sides of the tight fit match and carry guns.
Apologies for the rambling nature of the post. Also I want to warn it
is my opinion and you may not agree, If you can not handle that, I do
not know what to tell you other than don’t bother posting in the
comments complaining to me about how wrong I am. I have spent a long
time with 1911s and have my opinions on them. Everything below is given
as opinion and personal experience and observations only.
I am always having discussions with people about accuracy. Readers
who check here regularly know that it is a topic I often write about. I
give my thoughts on what guns I find to be accurate, the amount of
accuracy you can expect from rack grade combat guns and the distance
that those guns are capable of shooting to way beyond the common
knowledge of the internet experts along with the fire arms magazines. I
put great effort into showing that most factory guns are more capable
than most people will ever know. A match barrel does indeed have it
purpose and can give a great deal of improvement, but the barrel that
comes from quality factory guns are a lot better one may think, despite
the fact that the match barrel selling merchants would like you to
believe them to be crap.
When it comes to factory barrels and accuracy, self defense is one of
those times people would understandably want as much accuracy as they
can use. Even if they can not actually use i due to their skill level.
The model that in my opinion, gets the short end of the stick when it
comes to higher accuracy demands for self defense is my beloved 1911.
For the almost 30 years I have been using the 1911, I can remember being
told that all this and that kind of work has to be done to the gun to
make it accurate. No factory 1911 is all that accurate some said ( and
still do) and a lot of specialty shops have popped up to cater to this
idea. But this is often at the cost of reliability. The 1911 was made
to work withing certain specs. It was made to work when filthy and muddy
and with little cleaning, And the military models, when made to the
correct specs and dimensions and with good ammo, will work. the problem
I always see, are 1911s not made to the military combat specs.
To me, it is important to have one that meets the original
specifications. I want it to always work and to be accurate. After a
recent conversation about it for the 1 millionth time, I decided to show
a little testing of what a nice loose, proper 1911 is capable of.
Using the V-Tac target, I fired a full magazine of just plain old
ball ammo from 25 yards, off hand. The ammo is nothing special, it is
not match or Black Hills or handloaded. It is just military ball. I
fired at the head and the center of the chest.
While it is certainly not a tight pretty little group. Who would
argue against this being acceptable for ball ammo, off hand no bags or
rest, at 25 yards? All but one round feel in the box of the head. The
“flyer” is not a great shot. But I would think it would be a good chance
it would probably stop the fight anyway, or at least make the attack
second guess his commitment…. Maybe not, but the other shots would have
gave him pause. Note the between the eyes hit just happened to end up
that way, not by any special effort.
In my mind, for a 1911 so loose it rattles, and ball shot off hand at
25 yards, this will do the job pretty well while giving me a gun I know
will work every time.
The second mag was fired at the chest as seen above. Again this was
within the kill box of the target using plain ball. All nine shots are
good hits to me. The gun grouped a but better due to a large area to
aim at and be able to see my front sight against it better, but not a
drastic improvement. Three hits seem to be pretty good CNS hits while
four hits are in the heart and lung area with at least another hit in
the other lung.
the back side of the target has very hand Bullseye targets on the
back that are exactly placed on the opposite of the head and chest.
Compare the front hits with the scoring of the bullseye on the back. I
think this is a great feature without getting the shooter hung up on
worrying over some kind of score while they see the human anatomy on the
front. Few bad guys are likely to have black bullseyes on them so I
don’t suggest spending too much time on them when training for self
Again, while not good enough for Camp Perry. Not bad at all for
ball. Of course this would be a different matter with my chosen self
defense carry load. My daily carry ammo preforms better than ball. but,
my gun is still a looser fit gun that gives me the combat gun
reliability I demand.
This bring me to another of my pet topics about the 1911. I DO NOT
believe or recommend a hard, tight fit gun for self defense or combat. I
know you can find plenty of people out there who will want to argue
with me about this. But you don’t have to spend much time on gun forums
to see some guy complaining about how is multi thousand dollar custom Ed
Brown or Les Baer 1911 let him down at a training course. Well. there
is a reason for that. the 1911 is a combat gun meant to go to war, to
be in mud and gore. rain, snow and with little cleaning. It was
originally meant to be loose. Those tolerances allowed mud and carbon to
get all in the gun while giving it enough room to breathe and move. A
gun with the slide/frame so tight you have to beat it open, is not going
to give you that.
That is not to say I think a 1911 should look like the original with
no upgrades. I am not a follower of the “don’t put anything on the 1911
JMB did not put there.” I think ambi safety and better sights are a
must have, among a few other things, but the the gun I use to protect
myself will never be “tightened up” or a “hard fit”.
Tight fit guns have a place, and if you want one thats fine. But, if
I was not going to be shooting a bullseye match at Perry, I would not
carry one for self defense without a very long testing period. It is not
that these guns are not quality. Because they are custom guns and they
are made to a high quality. But sometimes that works against you when
things get dirty. It is one thing to have something to pass down to
your kids and show off at a BBQ and be a investment. But, I do not
believe the super expensive, custom 1911s to be better choices for self
defense over a 1911 with a looser fit. They are beautiful to be sure.
but to me, that is not good enough.
The gun I carry every day, is a Colt XSE. It comes from Colt as you
see it expect for the grips with gold medallion. The reason I love the
XSEs so much, is that they have a lot of the upgrades a custom gun comes
with but is not a hard fit 1911. The barrel locks up tight enough to
improve that accuracy over a USGI issue. but it is not so tight to cause
any possible problems if it gets very dirty. I have used this gun a
long time and shot it so much I could not even count. It has never
failed me. The first year I got it, I left it soaking in a silty creek
for eight hours and fired it, I froze it in a freezing rain and snow. I
opened it and poured powder fine dirt in it and one day I fired 1,000
rounds though it in about 30 minutes after not having cleaned it for
many rounds before it, except to oil it. The gun became too hot to hold
but still worked. It is also so loose that it rattles like a pebble in
a empty milk jug. But it still works and I can make the hits well
within what is needed.
My personal standard for a 1911 is to be able, off hand, to keep all
my shots on a human head at 25 yards. all in the chest kill zone at 50
yards, and to be able to hit a man at 100 yards with my quality self
defense loads at a minimum. I don’t expect it to do all that with ball
ammo or sub par plinking rounds, but it does not need to. It has to be
comfortable and have ambi safeties and sights big enough for me to see.
That is not too much to ask with modern guns. but due to the flood of
1911s made by so many companies trying to cash in on the guns
popularity, it is not as common as it would seem. All the crap copies
have given it a bad rap among some, that it does not deserve when made
to the specifications originally meant for a pistol to be used in muddy
trenches, volcanic sand on Pacific Islands, snowy mountains in asia and
the Jungles of Indochina. The USGI 1911 lasted so long because it works
when made right with combat in mind. And in my very personal opinion,
the hard fit 1911 is about as useful for fighting as the cheaper coat
tail riding knock offs from other countries and even quite a few made
here. When it comes to tight, hard fit 1911s sometimes there is such a
thing as too much of a good thing. Save the 2,500-5,000 dollar custom
guns for family heirlooms, Bullseye or hanging on the wall or just
shooting for pleasure and the enjoyment of having an investment grade
gun. If you do choose to have a custom high end, tight fit 1911 made
and decide to carry it. test it until you know it will work no matter
what. For your own sake, get it filthy., abuse it within reason, if you
are afraid of a blemish, then you are already going down the wrong
road. Beat the hell out of it to make sure it works. If you ignore all
I have said, at the very least, when it fails you at a training class
when it is subjected to a high rate of fire and round count for the
first time. at least tell the Trainer/instructor that looseorounds
I hate buzzwords. Especially
when they are tied to flawed ideas. For example,
Imagine you are a member of the French Resistance in World War Two. You have just received a Liberator pistol to aid you in your efforts. Your response would be, “Je te chie dans le cou, you ugly American swine. You expect me to fight without OVERMATCH? You should have given me a weapon that can fire faster than a MG34, has longer range than a K98k, and is lighter and handier and more controllable than a MP40. It needs to have greater anti-armor capabilities than a Panzerfaust. It had better be more of a psychological horror than the Flammenwerfer. And lastly, it had better cooler looking than a Luger with a snail drum and buttstock. If only you had provided me a real gun, like a .30 cal M14, we could beat the Nazis.”
When I was in the Corps we didn’t have the buzzword Overmatch yet. We did believe in the concept of “peeling the onion”. We wanted to be able to harm the enemy at longer ranges than they could harm us. At each layer, we would have greater range. Our M240 would be more accurate at longer ranges than their PKMs. Our M16A2 would strike them down at 500 yards while their AKM would only effectively hit us at 300m. Finally, should any get close enough, our M203 launchers out ranged their GP30 grenade launchers.
Little did we know that those Russians had switched to 5.45
and a 400m zero long before we were born.
So, while we were running around with M16A2 and 300 yard zeros, they had
overmatch on us.
I don’t like to use profanity, but sometimes I feel it the
only appropriate word with the correct grammatical purpose.
So if the Russian’s had overmatch in infantry rifles on us, would that mean they could beat us in equal numbers. My response to be would be. . .
I don’t think so. Fuck Overmatch.
If we follow the concept of overmatch to its logical conclusion, we would deduce that all our infantry need to be carrying select fire Barrett .50 cal rifles and all our planes and armor need to be launching cruise missiles with tac-nukes. Overmatch has become a buzzword used to question US Military Superiority and used as justification to try and fund what ever is the cool new toy of the day.
I am not going to wax and wane on tactics and equipment when I can ramble on with different parable.
I like to think that all my firearms are weapons ready for
war. In reality, I’m not about to grab
my 10/22 for a fight.
In the military, with training, we often trained as if we
were fighting an equivalently equipped force.
Many reasons for this:
If you can beat a force equal to yourself, you can beat an inferior force. Hopefully.
You can split your force and do training against each other. Each group can try their best to win without having to artificially limit one side. Allows all the individuals to get the best training in the limited time and budget.
You don’t have to try and simulate or obtain the equipment of any particular enemy group. If you use M4 carbines, do you really want to buy AK that use simunition rounds and hand them to people who have no training on them? Then the group using the AK are not getting good training themselves. Etc.
Your group is familiar with what you use and the tactics you use. Trying to get a group of your guys to properly role play the enemies tactics is hard. Especially if they are novices themselves.
The most important reason is that blue on blue training is easy and makes for the least amount of work for military leadership.
Thus, to make things easy for me, I’m grab a few pics of random our forces for the following examples instead of trying to find pictures of various other countries’ forces.
Back to that 10/22. Given the choice of fighting a superior force with a 10/22 or doing something else, most would advocate doing something else. Some would say you ignore the enemies combat forces and only strike at their support equipment and supply lines. This article isn’t for those cowards. If a hostile force is in your neighborhood going into homes and dragging off your friends and families, are you going to wait till you could hit the supply lines some other day? Success comes from taking one of your strong points poking it into an enemy’s weak point. But you don’t always get to pick your best strength or the enemies weakness, so we must be as flexible as possible in tactics and employment.
Look at these troops in Afghanistan. Body armor, good weapons, communications equipment. Against an individual with a 10/22 they would not just be overmatch. There would need some new term like overkillmatch. But it is hot over there in Afganland, almost as hot as Florida. These guys are not wearing their neck guards. Note, the article name is “fighting a superior force”, I didn’t saying anything about totally defeating them. If you were fighting a force like this a neck would be an excellent target for a .22 shot. Low recoil and low report may allow you to engage multiple individuals or fire multiple shots at one individual before you egress that firing point. You are not going to totally destroy an enemy patrol (unless you are horribly lucky), but you can hurt them.
If you were the unfortunate aggressor armed only with a .22, an urban environment would very much be to your advantage. Plenty of windows, mouse holes, walls, doors, or assorted opening to take a couple of shots and move before an organized response by your enemy. Even when firing a single shot from a full power rifle, it can take a few moments for the firing location to be identified. Firing a quieter weapon can make it even harder to identity when where shot came from. Helps you survive. Shoot and scoot!
Looking at the four soldiers above, only one is wearing a groin protector. Imagine if with your .22 you shot one of your enemies twice in the groin and then moved to another location in order to prepare to repeat the process. There is a good chance your .22 shots would have just struck thigh muscle and cause very little harm to the individual. There is a smaller chance you struck a major blood vessel or caused damage to the pelvis reducing mobility. There is very good you traumatized and demoralized an enemy possibly eliminating their will to fight. Think for a moment how a unit might react if 2 or 3 of their soldiers were shot in the groin. Might be a good time to get out of the area before try to use their armored vehicles to level buildings. If your enemy believes you will shoot them in their sex organs, it will have a noticeable effect on their will to fight. On the other hand, you might not want to get caught by them if you have been using this technique. Use the urban environment to engage from close range and disappear before they can respond.
These guys are wearing their neck protectors. But they either are not wearing them right, or have really long necks. Probably just have them too loose. This group is probably in the middle to rear of a larger formation. The guy on the far left is an officer. From the creepy pedophile looking mustache on the middle guy, I’d bet he is a staff NCO. Top sergeants seem to be drawn to that look for some reason unknown to me. Far right is might not be that important. But look, we have a guy wearing a funny outfit with a different gun, he must be a “collaborator”.
Major thanks to all the interpreters who helped us, especially the good ones.
I don’t want to be thought of as the guy that is just saying, “shoot them in the dick”, but lets continue with this silly example. Shooting the Officer or Staff NCO in the neck or groin is going to reduce their ability to lead and command. If you targeted an attached unit or collaborator, that may reduce the volunteers for those jobs.
Hopefully, you would have more than a .22 LR.
When you fight a superior force, you have to accept that you are not going to be able to decisively destroy them in every engagement. So you have to figure out how to use the assets you have to reduce the enemy.
This is a re-post from 2013 but because of this weeks theme of 22 rim fire used in the Ar15 I thought I would bring it back for those who hadn’t seen it.
I know I have talked a little bit about the old Colt produced .22LR
conversion kit before, but it was not in much detail. I get asked about
the conversion units often and they seem to be fairly rare these days. I
am not even sure how popular they used to be since commercial .223 and
surplus 5.56 use to be so cheap. So anyways, I thought I might talk
about it a little more now.
Sorry to say I can not nail down an exact date for when these things
first started being produced, but I know I had seen them around for as
far back as I can remember and bought one with my first AR15 way back
when I was still young and supple. Above is a picture of a conversion
kit still in its original plastic blister pack and shot only enough to
confirm it works, which is maybe 20 rounds. You can tell by the crappy
art that it was from at least the early eighties. Nothing on the
paperwork even gives a hint of its starting date of MFG. The
instruction with this one show it was made at least until the end of the
80s but I have no idea when they first made them.
The unit came with 1 magazines that holds ten rounds, the
conversion bolt, a chamber plug and the instructions along with a manual
for the AR15 of the time, a SP-2 sporter ( A2 ).
This is actually one of two that I own. Since it is mint, I do not
shoot this one. But, I do have a second one with spare magazines.
Since it comes with just one 10 rounder, things move a little slow.
Though it would be enough for what I am sure they intended at the time
of its release, i.e. teaching a kid or plinking at cans, hunting small
game, or like me, a broke college student who could barely afford 22LR
and had 30 rounds of 5.56 at any one time to my name.
As you can see, the second kit is more used and the two mags make
shooting it move along a little better. The mags are easy to load and
are about as tough as a AK mag. No joke. They are solid hard plastic
with metal feed lips etc. Its like a solid block of hard plastic. You
can see in the picture the size compared to a standard colt 20 round
I actually owned a third kit before these two and one of my best
friends owned a kit as well. All of them work great. I have never had a
problem out of them. I remember my friend had a miss feed a time or two
but once was from too low powered ammo and the other from a little too
much heavy lube. They work great and are very simple. The bolt is
hardened steel and a file would not make a mark I would rate its
hardness just below Chinese algebra.
I did recently buy one of the 30 round mags made by Black Dog Machine
and had high hopes only to find out the mag is a POS and BDM would not
return my emails about their garbage product. So, you won’t be seeing
it in this post.
In this picture above, you can see the little metal nub at the
chamber end. That is where the charging handle catches to worth the
“bolt” and chamber a round or to chamber check or for whatever other
reason you may need. It seems like its not enough and it probably isn’t
but it is just a 22 and no one is going to be beating on it to clear a
malfunction to save their life. Its also as hard as wood pecker lips
and I have never seen or even heard of one breaking. As a side note,
many years ago DPMS copied this kit and sold one. No surprise
there.. The end tab is just what you think it is. The bolt rides on the
two rails and it tracks very smoothly. You do feel the fouling of the
rimfire after enough rounds but the springs and rails keep it moving
great. Its easy to clean and maintain though colt does say absolutely
not to take it apart. There really is not need to take it apart anyway.
Its just so simple you see everything you need to clean and lube anyway.
Brake parts cleaner and oil is all it really needs. I knew another guy
who is one of those types who just HAS to take something apart.
especially if the factory says not to. He caused a few problems to the
one he had but it still worked.
The magazine does not have a bolt hold open, but its not really
needed. I suppose if you are super into training with a rimfire to
simulate what you do with a 556 thats a down side, but with only 10
round mags and the kit being a rare item these days, I don’t care. I am
not much on using a 22 for training anyway. But that is just me. You
can see the steel feed lips. The mag has the ejector on it on the rear
left of the magazine. It works well and the steel is hard enough. The
plastic nub in front keeps the magazine from going into the gun too
far. You can see a screw on the side of the mag, but it is not for
taking it apart. the mags have never failed me and as I said, they are
very tough. Though 10 rounds is boring for serious dirt shooter and
tin can killers.
I find it interesting the mags are marked “for M16/AR15”. I do not
know if the military ever bought any to supplement the kits they used
at the time, but it looks at least like colt hoped they would. Or, since
people could buy a real M16 for just a few hundred more than a semi
auto gun at the time, maybe they just marked it for those who may not
have known the AR15 and the M16 are the same gun. Whatever the reason,
Here is the kit beside its intended home. The gun is older then the
kit by a lot, but the SP-1 and SP2 is what the kits probably saw the
most use in. As far as accuracy, its not too bad in the older gun
with a 1/12 twist. Its good enough to hit a rabbit or squirrel out to
around 20 yards. I find with good ammo, skeet are easy to hit out to 100
yards and sometimes 200 with really good ammo and some hold over. Its
not MOA by no means and its less accurate in a barrel with a 1/7 twist,
but its still a rabbit killer out to 100 and a ground hog killer to 150
yards or so when you get use to your hold over. I have not shot it
much beyond 150 yards in a barrel with a 1/7 twist.
Back in the late 90s and friend and I did try it in a Colt Accurized
Rifle with a 24 inch SS barrel and a 1/9 twist. It was was accurate
enough to hit a old stop sign out to 250 yards with a 18x scope on it
adjusted for such or course, If I recall, it would have been enough to
keep it on a coyote sized animal 80 percent of the time. That is not
bad considering what the thing is really meant for.
it will work with some of the hotter standard velocity ammo, but they
work best with the high velocity ammo. Using proper ammo, the kits
have never failed me. If you can buy one for a decent price I would go
for it. I know that there are very few spare mags floating around.
Colt did sell them but not many. If you do get a kit, it will be just
with one mag. If you are offered the kit but no mag, I would pass. Its
very, very hard to find a lone magazine for sale. I would not even
bother with trying to get a BDM magazine for it without expecting to
have to send it back. Some guys claim their BDM mag worked, but mine
did not and since they would not even return any email I sent trying to
get some help I would never recommend buying a kit with no mag and plan
on using the BDM mag.
The Mil-dot reticle has been around a while now and I am sure most shooters consider it old and nearly useless compared to the newer Christmas tree reticles. It still has some life left in it though you just have to have a little imagination.
The Mildot system is a great way to use holdovers,but seems to limit us at the range we can apply them. With a traditional zero striking dead center on the crosshair. we have 5 Mils of drop still available to us for use on the reticle. 5 Mils is enough to compensate for the drop of most cartridges out to the 500 to 600 yard range plus or minus some. Depending on exact round used etc.
By changing the point of the reticle we use to zero, we can get more out of the reticle. In the diagrams we have four standard Mildot reticles.
1.The traditional zeroing aiming point. 2.Shows the amount of holdover available before running out of mils with the traditional crosshair type zero. If we re-zero our rifle to the 4th Mildot above our crosshair, as shown in the 3rd reticle, we are extending the hold over points our mildots provide.
Instead of only having 5 Mils of drop available, a simple change can give us 9 mils of holdover, as shown in reticle 4. Having holdover out to the thousand yard range instead of only 500 is a huge advantage, and at no cost to the shooter.
Shooting at longer ranges is growing in popularity at a faster rate than I have seen in my lie and many people are dipping their toes into the game. Reality is for most , several thousand dollar rifle optics with the new cutting edge reticles are not an option. especially when just starting out. The new shooter can still find very high quality optics with MILDOT reticles considerably cheaper than the same optics with the artillery grid reticles. The MILDOT is what we used for years and good work was done with it. I still use MILDOT reticles on many of my precision optics and have not been handicapped. Give them a try or take another look at an old favorite for hunting or long range varmint shooting. The MILDOT still can be useful contrary to popular internet belief. even if it is paired with 1/4 MOA turrets!