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SUREFIRE 60 round magazine

The Surefire magazines that hold 60 and 100 rounds have been out for a while now. If you are like me, you have read a few conflicting reports on the quality of the mags all over the internet.  With a possible panic buy situation looming in the future and my own curiosity I decided to try one out. I had no real use for the 100 round magazine since I am not a SAW gunner I opted for the 60 round mag. And as a side note it should be pointed out that surefire now sells MOLLE mag pouches that will hold the mags now.

Once I got the mag, I set out to test it as hard as I could. I loaded it completely full and inserted it into my carbine expecting it to feel like a boat anchor. I was greatly relieved to find that you can not really tell  it is 60 rounds. It really does not feel like any real extra weight. The balance of the weapon still has the same balance and handles just as well as it would with a 30 rounder.  The mag dropped free when empty and I felt no stiffness or friction when the mag release was pressed.  The mag was also very easy to seat  into the gun when loaded full and the bolt was closed. I thought with all the tension from that much ammo it would need some effort but it did not. Another nice discovery was that the 60th round was just as easy to thumb into the mag as the 1st round was. No sore bloody thumbs like was expecting. That was a very nice surprise.

The surefire is pretty much USGI in the feed lips department. The mag body is made from the same metal as the gov issue mags with what appears to be the same coatings. It is pretty simple to take the mag down for cleaning etc.

I went into the testing after all the usual examinations and fondling. I fired the mag empty in one go and it worked fine, locked the bolt open and dropped free while using M855. Next I dropped the ammo into the dirt, loaded them while dirty, shook them up in the mag and ran it dry with the same result.  Next I got into prone and put all the pressure I could on the mag using it as a monopod. I ran it empty with the same results.

I know some mags will give problems from the mag rest so I tested this a lot over two days. I fired another full mag while using it as a rest, but this time pushing it forward as I fired, rocking it forward. I reloaded it and did the same thing though this time I pulled back on it while pushing down hard. It worked great in both cases. I then did the same while holding the gun at an angle to the left then the right. I did both of these tests with a full mag. I did this thinking that some people  may have trouble shooting under a car and not touching the ground with the mag because of the longer length. In any case it did not matter. The mag ran fine with no problems. At this point I had put 400 rounds through the mag adn the gun. I had wiped off most of the lube from the colt to try to make it harder on the magazine. I also made sure to use stripper clips to laod as fast as I could so as to keep the gun hot and the mag warm and dirty. At this point I started using crummy ammo. I tried it with silver bear, brown bear, tula and wolf. Some of it was very under powered but, the mag worked fine. I would have been surprised to have any problems at that point, but I tried them just for the sake of trying them. And I am always looking for an excuse to shoot so it worked out nicely. Most of this testing was done today and a very windy and dusty place. My carbine was coated in a fairly thick coating of dust and I left the bolt open with mag in it to let dust in while shooting other guns to see if I could at least get the mag to feel gritty while working. No dice.

Now I will show a few pictures comparing the mag to a regular USGI and a Pmag and with and without ranger plates so people can get a idea of how long it is.

Here they are side by side. As can be seen, they are not to different in size. To the one guy who does not have a Pmag, they are slightly longer then a USGI.

I think this is a better shot to compare length with out the trick of the  curve of mags making them seem longer.

As can be seen in the picture. The surefire really is not too bad when you see its barely longer then a USGI with a magpul ranger plate on it. A lot of people use the pull tabs anyway, so when it comes to just plain length, it is really not all that much longer.

I know there is a lot of bad reports of the surefire all over the internet, but there is good as well. Mine has run great so far. I plan to test it a while longer before I say it is 100 percent ready to trust my life on it, or even a rifle match. But I am leaning toward that thinking currently. As much as i would like to say “buy with complete confidence” I must hang back. Though it worked great so far, it is not quite mature technology that has been proven enough in real combat in my mind. But, I am slow to jump all over something new. I usually want to see 5-10 years of something being used by the military or some other hard use  group and widespread adoption before I switch to something new. Especially if it is something really different. The surefire mag is not quite as big a deal as a new jet fighter or standard infantry round but, having a mag that fails you in a fight is a pretty big deal to anyone I think.  I will say it is worth buying and trying. if it works fine for you then that is great but take into consideration all the problems we are hearing. I have no way to prove how these supposed problems have happened or how  the mags were treated before they failed so keep in mind that most of the bad mouthing may be BS.  I will say I have heard a lot more good then bad. If you do want one but can not do it right now keep these things in mind.

Surefire will only improve it as time goes on an they will make any problem right. And there is a very very very good chance of wide spread panic buying and price hiking to come over the next few months and is a certainty if you know who is re elected.  So, my thinking was, if it works, great, I got it at a good price and if it give trouble, surefire will fix it and I will have gotten what at a good price before any chance, real or imagined for them to become hard to get, very high priced and sold out. I hope that at least helps you decide on to get one or not. I am very happy with mine and if it keeps performing as is, I will get another one for sure.

COLT Gov Model 1911 test.

Today I picked up another colt 1911, it is the regular gov model sold as the  1991A1 in the past, and still called that in the colt webpage. If you do not already know, it is just a basic model. It is sort of a cross between a 1911 and a 1911A1 with  better sites and a few differences. And of course it has the series 80 trigger system.  When I was a teenager, it would be what was called the MK IV series 80 Gov Model. If you are out of the loop and last had a colt in the 80s, and want another like it, this is the model to get.  Colt ad refers to it as a direct descendent of the 1911 used in WW1 and WW2.  This is a pretty good description actually, so I wont say more on that.

Now, to the meat of this review. I was very tempted to just skip any kinda intro and lead off with a pic of the target  as the 1st thing anyone could see. I was pretty giddy after I fired the first 5 rounds out of the gun. The picture below was shot using the colt, Black hills 230 grain match ammo, and off a bench at 25 yards. And,it was the first 5 rounds through the gun, brand new, out of the box. I had not even lubed it or cleaned it yet.

As you can see why, I was fairly surprised and pleased. This may be the best group I have ever fired with a handgun that was not a custom pistol.

I next moved on to using winchester white box ball ammo, since those last 5 rounds was all the BH match I had on hand. The next group below was shot the same way; off a bench at 25 yards.

Not as good, but wow!  not bad at all with walmart ball ammo. I am used to great accuracy from my colts that have the national match barrel and up graded specs. But, this out of a  pistol meant to be a little niceer finished milspec was amazing. Last I fired the same WWB ammo at 25 yards but instead of 5 I shot 7 rounds. Even off hand, I was more then happy.

With this pistol, better sights and a lighter trigger I would not be afraid to go to camp perry. It ran flawless just as I knew it would. Some people think a stock 1911 needs work to work perfect. The thought that it would, never crossed my mind. I have never had a colt let me down, though I will not say the same about kimber or springfeild.  The gun comes with 2 seven round mags, the lock to make new yorkers feel safer and the ever present NRA join up paper work.  The gun comes with a nice set of checkered double diamond grips,but I replaced them with a set with the colt gold medallions. The gold colt medallion was all the 1911s of my youth and I have always loved them and tried to keep them on as many of my colts as I can.

One thing that gave me a idea the gun would shoot tight before I even pulled the trigger, was how tight it was. I mean it was tight. No play of the barrel in the slide, no side to side movement,just tight.  The level of craft is a lot higher then some of the plain jane gov models  I have bought in the last decade. Not that the others were bad, just not as nice as this one in the little ways that matter to people that like safe queens and collectors items more then they like shooters and combat pistols meant to work hard.

The barrel is stainless, but not match. No full length guide rod either. A few years ago the same model came with two blued 8 round mags, but this one came with two 7 rounders. I might also add this is this years model.

After testing this gun I am very tempted to use it as a base gun for a MEUSOC clone, which was my intention. But now, no way. This however would be a great base model for a custom CCW gun for anyone. It is a great price and of course it is a colt. A lot of people would tell you to get a series 70 and thats fine too. But I have never had problems with the series 80 triggers and my series 80 gold cup has a better trigger then my series 70 gold cup national match and  every series 70 I ever tried. The BS you hear bad about the series 80, is just that. It makes the gun safer. It may be more parts but so what? If it was as bad as some ignorant people claim, colt would have stopped using the series 80 years ago , and would not put it in their flag ship pistols like the special combat gov the rail gun or the XSE series.

If you want a very nice shooter  as an example of history, a plain combat gun or a base gun for a custom project this is a great choice. It has a forged frame and slide, the least MIM parts on the market ( which is a rare thing in the 1911 market these days) put together still by hand from the company the introduced the pistol and has been making the for over 100 years now. And made right here in the USA. I think the choice is very easy.

www.coltsmfg.com

More Colt Nostalgia

I am always on the lookout for  Colt stuff.  Over the years I have gathered a nice little collection of colt parts and assorted collectables.  Two of the nicest items in my collection I like to keep with the SP-1 since they are from the same time period and  are rather hard to find. Both are new in unissued condition.

First up is a genuine colt M-7 bayonet with scabbard.  It was never used and has no marks, scratches or damage.

Everyone seems to have or did have a M7 laying around at one point. Then a few years ago the  interest in them soared for reasons I do  not know. I assume it is over the  explosion in the interest in all things “retro” related to the M16  from the 601 to the 603 series.  This was given to me by a dear friend after  I helped him get something he needed badly.

Next up is my personal favorite item in my collection. It is a unused Colt marked bipod that at one time would have been issued to the infantry to be used for the M16 in full auto fire from the prone.  Not only is it in perfect conditon, but so is its carrying case.

Of course clamping this simple piece of kit to a barrel would destroy in hopes of real accuracy, but that is not the point.  it is still a very nice bit of colts history to own though. One neat thing about its carrying case is it has a pouch on the front for the then issued sectional cleaning kit.  A modern kit will not fit in the space provided on the case because  the more modern sections are longer then the older VN era kits.

Finally is a poster/add from the early 90s. I bought this when I was coming up on the twilight of my teenage years. It could be purchased though the mail only since this is a few years before the internet. At least it was a few years from everyone having it and colt sure did not have a website at the time anyways.  I can not remember if it was made because of the growing popularity of the cowboy action shooting or because of a re issue of some special edition SSA.  But, at any rate here it is for your enjoyment and a look at how much of a packrat I am about throwing gun related stuff away.

Smallest to the Biggest

After stopping by an old friends work place the the other day, we got talking guns as usual.  He is more of a hunter then I am so he was  all giddy to show me two of his newer guns.  After seeing them he showed me a round of each and gave me  a sample to keep just for fun.  I would only shoot one of them. I bet you can guess which I would not shoot!  5.56 for size

from left

.22 squirrell , 5.56 and then 505 gibbs

the 22cal has a .22 hornet parent case

Looking for a nice IWB holster?

Back in 2007 I decided I needed a IWB holster for my 1911. Like most people I ended up with a enough holster to outfit a rifle squad while trying to find one I liked that worked for me. I was reading the book Living with the 1911 when I noticed a company in Texas that made some really nice handmade custom leather and decided to give them a try.   the company is Kirkpatrick Leather and they do indeed make a truly awesome holster. They have something for everyone.

The model I choose has the snap loops for a belt and I got it in chocolate color. I have always liked this color over black or the lighter tan. The model I use is called the Commander Carry Model TCC. You can have it made for a commander or Gov model like I did. Looking closely at the holster reveals true craftsmanship that a off the shelf  holster usually does not have. But, that is okay, they are for mass production and do their job just fine. They are not meant to be custom made just for you.

The CC TCC  has a hand molded finish, a shirt guard and  can come with kydex belt clips installed instead of the leather loops and snaps. Also it has the slight FBI style cant. One of the little touches I consider a must have feature is the reinforced opening. It allows you to reholster with one hand by keeping it open. It may not seem important to people that carry as a after thought, but this is essential to have in a situation where you need to keep your eyes on threats  or on a door nob or dialing 911 etc etc.

As you can see, it has a small footprint. I have never had a problem keeping it well hidden with no printing, even with a fairly tight fitting Tshirt in the summer time. It does its job well when it comes to hidding the gun.  The shape and fit of the holster makes carrying the full size 1911 all day  and hidden, as easy as falling off a frog.  I have worn it every day since Jan 07 and have worn out three belts will wearing the TCC  yet I have not seen any wear on the holster.

Getting your hand on the grip and establishing a solid firing grip is easy as well. On some holster, the shirt guard will sometimes get in the way for me when grabbing a 1911 with the high thumb grip. Not so with the commander carry. It is just right. This is not a add for the company, but I really can not say enough good about the gear they make.  I have spread the word on this little shop since I got the  holster. Anyone that has been frustrated by IWB holster that come up short, or may just want a nice custom made holster just for them  or their custom gun should try them out. Of course they make holsters for more then the 1911 so don’t let that stop ya.

http://www.kirkpatrickleather.com/

The Warbelt

These days it seems to be that the idea of the warbelt is a very popular line of personal gear when it comes to fighting or training or just looking cool.  I do not want to get into the whole 1st line 2nd line 3rd line  gear  discussion right now, but I do like the idea of increasing layers of kit to add or take away from depending on what you need or  have time for.  I consider a  EDC  as my 1st line though I have met others that do not.  I always have a pistol reloads a knife and a few more no martial things on me every day, so it might as well be called 1st line in my mind.

The next step up from my EDC  is going to be pretty substantial. Since I already have a pistol and two spare reloads, a light and a knife, if I don not feel that is enough, then I really figure on needing a considerable amount of gear if my EDC  will not cut the mustard.  Also I can slip a belt on and just transfer whatever I carry everyday on to the belt with minor hassle.

I like the warbelt concept for a lot of different reasons. Mainly its because i can slip it on fast and it has more then enough to help win any fight a civilian would  likely ever find their selves into. Also, it can be worn under a plate carrier with comfort and take the bulk of your gear. I like to leave my PC as slick as possible.  I feel there is no r4eason to really load a PC down anyway, it is already heavy due to plates and suck and if you dont need a PC, or at least do not want to use it, you do not have to worry about moving all of your gear over to the belt. The belt is also a lot cooler and comfy while carrying all you need.  On a side note, I have never understood why some people will buy a PC and load ot down with everything and not even have soft armor or plates in it. They are not comfortable or cool and restrict you from having 100 percent freedom so I have no idea what the point of a PC with no armor is.

So to take a quick look at my belt, and whats in it for my purposes.


My belt is simply the Blackhawk Molle belt. Nothing super fancy or pricey but not junk and I like it. On the left side I have a Blackhawk single stack mag pouch made out of the same stuff as the Serpa. Next in line are two Fastmags from BFG. They can be used on a normal pants belt or a MOLLE belt. I LOVE these mag pouches. They retain loaded mags great and it is easy to draw a mag out. They can eve be mounted upside down or anyway you can manage yet still hold the mags in place no matter what. You can also double up on them thanks to slots in the front that allows the tabs to thread through. There is even as slider adjustment piece on the back to add tension if needed. The Fast mags also hold USGI, Pmags, Lancers etc all the same. They are great and I just can not say enough stuff about them.

Next is a leatherman tool stored in a pistol pouch. You never know.  Next to it is a SDS general purpose/canteen pouch.  I think pretty highly of these pouches as well even though they are not popular, They will hold a canteen, 7 mags , medical gear, NVG gear or anything you want. They are NOT padded though so you might not want to put anything  in there that needs padding. In the pouch is once smoke grenade and one tear gas grenade, The tear gas canister spews LEO grade CS for 28 seconds. I like to have these because sometimes  you may need to get away or screen your self at a time shooting just would not be doable. I am sure you can think or plenty of situations they could come in handy without my help.

Next up is my IFAK. It is simply a US Army issue IFAK with a few minor additions by me. I added some extra quikclot and bandages. It has all the normal stuff, CAT ,curlex, Hbandage, pressure bandages etc etc.  I always have one of these in my Jeep and always in a pack  or belt.  Of course I have more then one when doing anything if a gun is being used. Of course do not ad stuff you have no idea how to use, but you can ditch that stuff and add as much stuff you want.

And last is my trusty 1911 that I go no where without. It is my rail gun in one of the Darkstargear holster I had custom made. They will fit to MOLLE or your normal pants belt.

Lastly are suspenders I use to keep the belt from falling around my ankles like a cheerleaders panties on prom night. It helps with the weight if I add a dump pouch or  water etc. I hate to admit, but I forgot what brand they are. Even with all that on my belt ( and its not alot compared to others) it all wears great. I can easily wear it under my TAG Banshee PC with comfort and nothing gets in the way of anything on te PC. It is important to think hard about gear placement. You do not want to put everything together, then find out you can not draw your side arm because a pouch is in the way.  Another small thing I like, is that I can loose the IFAK to make the belt slimmer, and hide it under a long sleeve button up shirt or under a jacket if I ever needed to keep a low profile but still needed my gear. This would be worth its weight in gold in a city while trying to get out of town after some major unpleasantness.

Colt Rail Gun 1911 accuarcy test

A lot of people have been asking me how I like my Rail Gun ever since I got it. I always say the same thing, that I love it and it shoots great. After using it in a few informal matches and classes and such, I have really come to trust it more then any 1911 I have ever owned, Its accuracy is also more then I could have hoped for, even with typical walmart fodder.  Up until now I never bothered to save any targets from range and training sessions with it to show anyone who asks. So today while I was counting up how many rounds I had put through it  since I bought it in the fall of 09 and realized it has over  4200 rounds through it that I know of for sure.  And after thinking about it, I decided it would be a great time to do a more formal accuracy test  on paper to show.  I did 3 five shot groups.  with  black hills match and winchester white box you can buy at walmart in the 100 round pack.  The first group was shot off a bench with a sand bag with the match ammo at 20 yards.

The Colt national match barrel really shined with that ammo and off the bench. I have to say it took some serious concentration to keep a group that small with the site radious of a pistol.

The upper left hand group was shot with the same match ammo, but off hand at 20 yards. I have to say I surprised myself a little bit with that group, even though I have been shooting the pistol at a very intense volume the last few months and the practice shows.

The bottom group was shot offhand at 20 yards offhand again, with the WWB. I was dissapointed a little, but not much. It was WWB after all and offhand.  It is actually pretty good especially with factory plinking ammo.  The orange dots are a little over 2 inches around, so I put a couple of rounds in the picture to give a sense of the group size since I did not add a ruler or anything. Sorry to say I did not measure the groups with a ruler, I think the picture speaks for its self well enough when it is a handgun we are talking about.  In the next rail gun review I will shoot some winchester ranger T and some of the other more popular self defense rounds.

I would have shot more today but I was running out of light and time. Also, all groups were shot with the surefire X300 attached to the pistol. The pistol has also not been cleaned for the last 1700 rounds, just oiled when I feel like oiling it. Lubricant was slip2000 and some  shooters choice grease used very lightly on relevant parts since I carry it as my CCW gun and I sweat a lot.

Testing the 5.56mm MK318 MOD 0 / 5.56 SOST ammo

The 5.56 SOST  is the ammo currently being used by the USMC and other troops in the GWOT,  it has not been available for the public to buy for very long so I, like a lot of other people have been curious about how it performs. The round was designed to  have better terminal performance and accuracy from short barreled rifles with a muzzle velocity of 2925 fps from the 14.5 inch M4 barrel.  The round is a OTM,  this is important to remember as it is not the same as a hollow point.  It does however, offer up better performance and is barrier blind. The bullet itself has a thick copper base and a lead front end with the usual open tip that results from the process of making the bullet.  Also present are the rings seen around the bullet much like a barnes triple shock X.  A lot of people assumed and still do that the SOST is a barnes solid copper TSX, but it is not.

After getting my hands on some of the ammo I decided to test it for accuracy first. Since the ammo is intended for combat weapons, I chose to use my Colt 6940  with milspec barrel with 1/7 twist. I did put a Leupold 18x target scope on the carbine though so i could get all the accuracy out of it I could.  I fired 2 strings of 5 shots at 1 inch dots and one string of 10 shots of M855 to compare it to the common military load all at 100 yards. It was around 1100 AM , sunny with a  2 oclock 18 MPH wind.

Other then the normal 1st round flyer you usually get from hand cycling the action as opposed to letting the recoil operate and chamber  the next few rounds, the ammo showed some  great potential. The group on the left  was a little worse due to my own bad trigger work and lost concentration on one shot, but still pretty good considering. Now I know some claim  5 shot groups tell nothing, but if you over lay to  strings you get a pretty good idea  and you keep barrel heat down and mirage off the barrel messing with the scope.

After shooting the groups I decided to test out how the round matched the trajectory of the M855 since that is one of the things the SOST round was meant to have in common with the green tip. Out to 300and 400 yards  the SOST did match the BDC of my TA31F  ACOG and zero of other scopes and Aimpoint RDS I had on hand zeroed for the green tip. Also when comparing the position of the groups in relation to the aiming points, you can see on paper that the zero held very close for both rounds.

Now, the real surprise for me, was how good the lot of M855 I shot turned out to be!  Many gun board expurts and gun magazine expurtitions will gladly tell you how terrible green tip is in the accuracy department along with its many other flaws , makes it  slightly more useful then tits on a boar hog. After getting the carbine hot  after some drills using the SOST and playing around, I fired off 10 rounds fairly quickly  with the Colt/18x combo.  The results left me a little surprised, rarely have I seen green tip shot for accuracy  with sand bags, a table and a target scope further then 50 yards. And I do not recall having seen any pictures of it doing as well in a true 100 distance group.  I shot the green tip with all seriousness and the same concentrated effort I did with the SOST and the results were pleasing and a little surprising to me.  I have never taken the green tip seriously  enough for my own needs in the accuracy department so this will indeed lead to more testing of the M855 if for no other reason  then to see if this was a fluke.

Now I do not mean to sound like I think green tip is crap, I have seen some  good performance out of it at longer ranges on coyote size targets and even man sized targets. But on the other hand, I have seen some terrible accuracy from it too. Of course lots and different MGGs have as much to do with it as anything, not to metion the different shoots and the quality or lack of  in the guns used.

Back to the SOST, I think its a pretty good round from what I can tell. It is not MK 262 or TAP 75 gr. But for general issue to everyone, it is an iprovement in my humble opinion.  I have not shot anything living with it yet, but I will. Also, in the next few weeks I will test it though a few “barriers” like auto glass, wood, and wall paneling. Hopefully I will get to shoot through some auto doors as well.  I would not use it in my own house if over shooting is a issue, but I would use it for anything else at this point if you can find enough for SHTF bulk storing. And you have the benefit of practicing/training with M855 and still being able to shoot the SOST without a zero change. At this point I can not say it is better then any MK 262 top load in accuracy, but it is not meant to be, but, it is better then M193 by a long ways and it shows the ability to shoot a lot better the M855 and even if it just matches it in accuracy you still have the benefits of better terminal performance and barrier penetration while still holding together to hit the target behind if power point presentations can be believed. Hopefully my future testing will offer at least a tiny sample to help prove or disprove the new round.

Springfield SOCOM II quick review

Today I got the chance to look over and to shoot the SOCOM II rifle a close friend bought. Anyone who knows me , knows I am no fan of the M14/M1A rifle. I will not go into the many flaws it has here, but I will say despite my dislike for the rifle I always give them a fair try and never slam one unfairly just because I do not like them.

The rifle arrived  with the companies 10 round mag. Why not a 20 round mag? I have no idea. The mags when new cost double or triple a USGI  Ar15 mag and I know most buyers would want a USGI 20 round M14 mag to start with. Though I do understand legality can come into play depending where you live.

The stock is a nice touch, it fit well and tight unlike some cheap fiberglass types stocks I have seen with huge gaps. The grip and forearm had a sort of checkering though I felt that other then looks, it was not aggressive enough to be used for real grip.  One thing I did appreciate was the mag well had a nice angled bevel to help inserting and rocking in of the magazine.

After picking it up and handling it, I found the balance to be pretty nice it shoulder well and was short and quick when moving it around tight spots.


The SOCOM was also one of the first M1As I had ever held that the top handgaurd cover fit nice and tight and not rattle around loosely like it normally does on a M14.  On top of the rifle in front of the bolt is a short piece of rail for optics.  This is an idea spot for a T-1 or RMR. I don’t think I would mount something as big as a CompM3 or Eotech, but it is a nice set up for the mini RDS.  Having no optics on had to try out , I can not say anything about  if it would co-witness with irons. The rear peep sight is bigger then the traditional rear sight. i appreciate this since I have never found the normal small peep to be handy for me at close range or moving targets. the frnt sight had a tridium vial and the protective hoods on each side of the front post are nice and wide, protecting it but not so close to cause confusion at night or in a stressful situation.

After shooting it and checking zero, we proceeded to do some faster shooting. the muzzle brake did its job well. Using Federal gold medal 168 grain Match, the muzzle stayed flat and reduced recoil with not much flash at all. However, with lake city ball, the muzzle blast would peel paint from a wall and was loud enough to be a real distraction. The ports on the brake did direct the worst of the flash away from the line of sight enough to reduce it. No night firing was done so I can not comment on how bad it would be at night with Ball ammo.

The gun was very controllable during double and triple taps.  A number or shots were fired at a  IDPA target at 25 yards to test how controllable it was during rapid fire.  A few double taps even manged to cut into each other or a least touch because of the effective muzzle device. Double and triple taps easily stayed on the head while firing as fast as possible  even fighting against the 2 stage trigger.

After having some fun and getting a feel how the rifle generally handled, we decided it was time to test if for accuracy. Since we where not on a range that let us shoot past 25 yards we had to settle for the short range.  two  5 shot groups were fired using the before mentioned federal gold medal 168 match load.  No optics were used nor any kind of tripod/bipod. I know it is only 25 yards and open sighted, but I have to say, it shows some real potential.

5 shot group 168 grain match

Both groups are 5 round strings fired with the Federal gold medal 168grain match load. As you can see in the pictures 3 rounds went into the same hole in both groups. Considering both were shot pretty much off hand, thats not bad at all  even as close as 25 yards!!

Now the downside of the SOCOM II is it suffers the same things as all its other versions. A very slow reload. A safety that is not in a good spot at all. In fact. with the smaller trigger guard and the position of the safety, I found ever time I tried to put my finger into the trigger guard, my finger got hung up  between the two and I had to take a second to make sure I got it in where it needed. Sure this is a training issue, but its a issue that really should not even really be there. Other small issues to me are miner, like having to clean from the muzzle and the gun not having a bolt closure or a better safety but these are all personal, maybe other who love the rifle will train hard enough to over come them and perform beautifully with it.    It is a very accurate rifle from what I have seen and it handles great. Plenty of companies make a rail or a way to mount what else you need on a general purpose rifle so there should be no problem there, And you can replace the stock with a multitude of other options. If you want a battle rifle that is  not too long, this is a good choice and its not as pricey as  some AR10 type .30 caliber rifles though you do not have the versatility of the AR type rifles, you still get one nice sweet rifle that is superior to the normal M14/M1a