Some Government 1911s coming out of storage


Don’t expect much out of me today. Will be standing in line to vote here in a bit. Tonight I am sure everyone won’t be coming here for my election coverage so I am not gonna put much effort into it. I may do some light easy-breezy posting to give you something to give little breaks from today’s insanity and possible anxiety. I found these pictures last night. Nothing makes me feel better than looking at 1911s and even better is looking at 1911s that are coming out of Army storage. This may or may not be a shipment to the CMP. I don’t know, I was given no context with the photos but I suspect they are.


  1. So long as those are the unissued ones…

    I am here to tell you that the ones we actually had out in the units to issue were worn-out and abused beyond belief. Can’t even begin to describe the condition of the majority I handled, but they were not even rebuildable if you stripped the frames down–Egg-shaped pin holes everywhere.

    I honestly can’t even remember ever seeing an issue-type M1911A1 that wasn’t “Code this fucker out, right now…”, to be honest. The only reason I couldn’t get ours turned in and replaced was that there weren’t any (supposedly…) available to replace them. The usual story was, going over to Third Shop with them was “Yeah, we’d turn this in, but then what are ya gonna shoot…? There’s nothing to give you…”.

    I have to wonder where the hell CMP is finding these… War stocks that were never released? It’s amazing to see a GI .45 that’s not “Shake it and watch it field-strip itself…” condition. Which is only a very slight exaggeration, describing a lot of the ones I saw.

      • For the sake of the buyers, I sure hope so.

        I’ll give you an idea of how bad a lot of them were–When we turned them in for the M9, the folks over at the Logistics Center had a table going where they were doing the inspections. The “send it to melt” bin was one of those big metal deals about four feet on a side and three or so feet tall that you move around with a forklift. It was full and nearly overflowing when we did our turn-in.

        The “Well, maybe we can fix this…” container was a shoebox-sized plastic tub on the table, and it was empty when we did our turn-in. I asked the small arms repair guy who was working the desk “How many good ones have you found…?”, and he just laughed his ass off.

        There were apparently so few being turned in that were in serviceable condition that you could literally fit them into a single letter-sized file cabinet drawer. That was including all the National Guard and Reserve units that fell in on that Logistics Center for support, so figure a goodly chunk of the Pacific Northwest’s Army element from all three components.

          • I wonder how many of these are from overseas sources we sold ’em to, and then they didn’t ever get used?

            That would explain the pristine condition a lot of them seem to be in…

            God almighty, if some poor bastard gets the old M1911A1 my commander at Fort Sill had… Sweet babblin’ Baby Jeebus–That thing had been rebuilt from an original M1911 sometime shortly after WWI, and then three more times that we could ID from the various and many stamps it had on it. I swear before God that the most likely thing interesting to a collector would have been all the different stamps and overstamps on it. They ran out of room on the frame where they were supposed to do it, and then had to stamp places that were supposedly off-limits.

            From the lot numbers stamped on some of the parts, that pistol’s frame may have been an original from before WWI, but the rest of it had parts from every decade between production and the 1980s. Some of which I installed myself, in a forlorn attempt to render it fully serviceable for a new commander.

  2. The last M1911s in storage at Anniston were all inspected and in “B4” condition before they went into storage. This sometimes means that they were rebuilt before being repackaged and placed into storage. B4 means that they are used, but issuable without further repair or modification, so that they could directly be moved from stockpiles to newly formed units.

    Most of the pistols going to CMP SHOULD be in decent condition. A few years back, we went to a briefing where DLA discussed all of this and how they were pushing hard to get the law changed so that they could go to CMP, mainly because they cost about $5 each per year to maintain. They had about 100,000 in storage then.

  3. Like a giant box of candy.


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