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Guest Post: How they’ll use the Trump Manouver to ban Standard Magazines in the Future

Reposted with permission. Originally Posted by MKSheppard on AR15.com


Maryland’s Bump Fire Stock ban bill had this language originally: 

“RAPID FIRE TRIGGER ACTIVATOR” MEANS ANY DEVICE, PART, OR COMBINATION OF DEVICES OR PARTS THAT IS DESIGNED AND FUNCTIONS TO ACCELERATE THE RATE OF FIRE OF A FIREARM BEYOND THE STANDARD RATE OF FIRE FOR FIREARMS THAT ARE NOT EQUIPPED WITH THAT DEVICE, PART, OR COMBINATION OF DEVICES OR PARTS ANY DEVICE, INCLUDING A REMOVABLE MANUAL OR POWER–DRIVEN ACTIVATING DEVICE, CONSTRUCTED SO THAT, WHEN INSTALLED IN OR ATTACHED TO A FIREARM: 

(I) THE RATE AT WHICH THE TRIGGER IS ACTIVATED INCREASES; OR 
(II) THE RATE OF FIRE INCREASES.

The following clause was struck out of the final bill apparently. 

ANY DEVICE, PART, OR COMBINATION OF DEVICES OR PARTS THAT IS DESIGNED AND FUNCTIONS TO ACCELERATE THE RATE OF FIRE OF A FIREARM BEYOND THE STANDARD RATE OF FIRE FOR FIREARMS THAT ARE NOT EQUIPPED WITH THAT DEVICE, PART, OR COMBINATION OF DEVICES OR PARTS

so that the text is now 

“RAPID FIRE TRIGGER ACTIVATOR” MEANS ANY DEVICE, INCLUDING A REMOVABLE MANUAL OR POWER–DRIVEN ACTIVATING DEVICE, CONSTRUCTED SO THAT, WHEN INSTALLED IN OR ATTACHED TO A FIREARM: 

(I) THE RATE AT WHICH THE TRIGGER IS ACTIVATED INCREASES; OR 
(II) THE RATE OF FIRE INCREASES

A judge noticed how restrictive this was: 

https://www.ammoland.com/2018/09/maryland-gun-owners-out-to-dry-gun-oil-ban/#axzz5lIEIh0to 

At the hearing, Judge Bredar remarked on the extreme vagueness of the State’s law as he demonstrated how GUN OIL being used to lubricate a BOLT-ACTION RIFLE to “increase” the “rate of fire” of the rifle because the action could be worked more efficiently, meaning the trigger could be manually activated faster than it could before using the GUN OIL.

By the way, while doing research for the next section; I noticed that ATF/Police personnel when they were asked by the media how long it took to empty a magazine, they used Jerry Mikulek speeds. 

If we assume someone can fire 1.5 shots a second and takes 3 seconds to change a magazine; then it breaks down as: 

5 Rd Magazine: 47 RPM (Cyclic) 
10 Rd Magazine: 62 RPM (Cyclic) 
20 Rd Magazine: 73 RPM (Cyclic) 
30 Rd Magazine: 78 RPM (Cyclic) 
60 Rd Magazine: 83 RPM (Cyclic) 
100 Rd Magazine: 86 RPM (Cyclic) 

You can see that by simply existing, a 30 round magazine increases the cyclic rate of fire of an AR15 from the 62 RPM of a 10 round magazine to 78 RPM. 

Therefore, it falls under the bump stock ban language used in Maryland: 

FUNCTIONS TO ACCELERATE THE RATE OF FIRE OF A FIREARM BEYOND THE STANDARD RATE OF FIRE FOR FIREARMS THAT ARE NOT EQUIPPED WITH THAT DEVICE, PART, OR COMBINATION OF DEVICES OR PARTS

and is banned. 

Let’s go a little bit further on how dangerous this is legally from the talk that the NRA put forth about how devices that simulate machine guns should be banned/regulated: 

Let’s assume that your AR15 fires 700 RPM (or 12 shots a second) as long as the magazine holds out and the trigger is depressed. 

Let’s assume that the media/ATF/Presidency (it’s going to go to a democrat eventually) play semantic games and pit: 

Zero Training Shooter, 1.5 shots a second semi automatically, 3 seconds to change magazine 
against 
Competition Shooter, 3 shots a second semi automatically, 1.5 seconds to change magazine 

Basically, they get an average untrained government worker with no experience in guns or automatic weapons, and put him behind a M4 Carbine with a giggle switch; and then test him against the best shooter from the JSOC units (MARSOC, SEALs, DELTA, etc) and using him with a 60 round drum as the baseline for semi auto weapons. 

The numbers crank out as: 

Automatic Rifle, Zero Training Shooter: 12 shots a second (720 RPM cyclic) , 3 seconds to change magazine. 
10 rd magazine: 156 RPM Average 
20 rd Magazine: 257 RPM average 
30 rd Magazine: 327 RPM average 
60 rd Drum: 450 RPM average 

Competition shooter, 3 shots a second, 1.5 seconds to change magazine. 
10 rd magazine: 124 RPM Average 
20 rd Magazine: 146 RPM average 
30 rd Magazine: 156 RPM average 
60 rd Drum: 167 RPM average 

You can see how there is a crossover if you limit the machine gun to 10~ round magazines; and put the best guy on the semi automatic; leading to situations where a semi automatic rifle with a so-called “Large Capacity Magazine” can put more bullets down range than a machine gun in the same amount of time (say, 60 seconds?). 

Thus, they get their “technically accurate” soundbite that gets disseminated on every network news show and all over Vox and The Trace about how 30 round magazines make semi autos equal in rate of fire to a machine gun! 

I’m no genius level intellect, and it took me only a few moments to come up with this attack mode — there are bound to be more that the antigunners will come up with. 

This is called “Red Teaming” where a group of players tries to poke holes in the plan of action — it appears that the anti gunners do a lot of “Red Team” counter study of their own proposals; witness how much smoother and slicker they are now, compared to the 1994 AWB. 

Meanwhile, the NRA is all hurf a derp, Wayne wants you to donate to get a chance to win this Kryptek truck! 

PS: When they use the Bump Stock attack mechanism to ban standard capacity magazines, they will lie to the general public and say that people can keep the magazines they have (grandfathering) as long as they register them.

What they won’t say is that the magazines since they are ruled as “converting a semi auto to simulate near machine gun sustained rates of fire”, they must be registered as destructive devices under the national firearms act, with each individual magazine being serialized and subject to a tax stamp. 

They’ve already done this — look at Washington state — they said one thing in the two sentence description of I-1639 on the ballot; “ban semi automatic assault weapons”, but when you looked at the 50 page text of the actual initative of I-1639, it defined “semi automatic assault weapon” as ANY semi automatic, even a 10/22. 

Happy dreams.

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3 thoughts on “Guest Post: How they’ll use the Trump Manouver to ban Standard Magazines in the Future”

  1. A frightening picture for sure. However, if you dislike the current NRA’s direction, pony up for a life membership or hang on annually for five years and vote for the Board. I’m sorry but no other 2A organization has the clout of the NRA-ILA. The SAF kicks ass in the court room and that’s about it.

  2. Well,for those who need more reading material magazines are at moment widely available,get shopping,and,perhaps a few for friends in tight financial spots.

  3. The courts are going to have to settle this crap. In the case of the bump stocks specifically, sooner rather than later. In the case of this sort of nonsense? Probably later, depending on how the bump sticks go.

    But there is no doubt that our enemies aren’t resting.

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