Inland MFG M1A1 Paratrooper Carbine

Today we have another product from the company with the historic name in firearms history.   I have reviewed 2 of their growing M1 family of rifles in the past two years  and so far they gave all been great.

The prize for me was getting a sample of the paratrooper carbine. Man, who doesn’t want to play with such an iconic gun from WWII? I never saw a real one in the 80s or 90s.   But we all sure saw them in Saving Pvt Ryan and Band of Brothers.  In fact we all saw them so much the price for one went  up to roughly the amount spent on the Manhattan project.     Getting a real one was pretty tough even though the stocks could be bought and put on a standard model.

Then we started to see  remakes come out on the market over the last few years.  And in my opinion the rest of them are crap.  I have played around with the ones made by the other makers and rthey are dreadful.  I passed up  a auto ord. example  it was so crummy.

But the Inland model is another matter.  After the M1 and the experience with it, I was pretty sure the paratrooper would be in the same league.  And., it was.

The gun has the same rear sight as the  other Inland models.  The adjustable type that some dislike because its not the simple rear fixed peep but I love it.   I appreciate some adjustment on any rifle I expect to want to shoot past 50 yards.  And contrary to  the videos of some worthies, they do stay put.   I fired 500 rounds through this gun and it stayed put.  On top of that I tossed it in the back of a truck bed and drove around on the top of a mountain off trail for 6 hours.  That is pretty rough on stuff but it was still tight as a mouses  ear.

The controls on the gun are the same as the other models with the push button safety and the button mag release that sometimes I hit by mistake.  A common mistake it seems.

Now the stock. It is  a metal wire stock with a leather “cheek piece” for some kind of comfort.

It doesn’t offer up much though. But it is not mean to be a McMililan fully adjustable target stock. It’s meant to be a light folding stock for  guys dropping behind lines with  twice their weight in gear to fight for a hand full of days.    It works just fine for that.

I was a little surprised  how the felt recoil of the 30 carbine was increased with the weight of the full wood stock gone.   Now it wasn’t painful or anything close to that, but you do notice it when shooting the  two models  nearly back to back like I have been doing this past year.

To fold the stock..  well, you just fold it.  It does not lock in place and require the pressing of a button . It hinges open , clicks and  is held open via spring. When you want to fold it, just fold it.   It lays down the left side of the gun and still allows the gun to be fired.  The butt plate can rotate to the side I assume to let the gun lie more flat in its case? I really have no idea why it was made to let the butt plate rotate to the side. it doesn’t lock or lock to anything and it doesn’t function as the mechanism that you use to unlock the stock to fold or unfold it.  I guess some one decided to make it that way for a reason that seemed good at the time. Maybe Dan will comment below and offer up and explanation.

The”pistol grip” is a little short for my hand and blocky.  But I would want it that way for a gun I would be jumping out of a plane with.  It needs to be thick, chunky and tough.  It is.   It also  has at the bottom the  rear sling mounting point which is a tough metal part that is part of the folding stock assembly.

Now, how did it shoot? Great.  Even with the stock not locking and place  and allowing some wiggle.

I couldn’t find as large selection of .30carbine ammo to test as I would have liked.    I even resorted to some ammo from the 70s to have enough to offer a variety.  There are some very high dollar high quality specialty  duty loads for the .30carbine out there you can find.  The bottom group in fact was shot using the federal police duty load.

I fired all groups from a bench and bags at 50 yards using the iron sights.  I feel this is a reasonable test of its accuracy  to shoot groups  because the size of the peep is not great for my eyes.  Not to mention using 3/4 inch sized dots as aiming points get hard to see through iron sights at much distance and eye strain starts fast.

I did shoot the  carbine at 100 yards for  group using iron sights.   It took an hour to put this group on target but it was worth the extra effort.   The armscor brand ball ammo shooting great.  It was my favorite ammo to use in the M1s over the last years.   You can see that is well within head shot sized

Like the other M1s, I fired out to 200 and 300 yards on steel man’s chest sized targets and hit without issue.   That is perfectly doable with the M1 if you are  a competent shot .

Not much to say about weather testing this one since it just this week got cold enough for me to treat it like I did the last two and my time with it is up. I did leave it out all night last night in snow and 7 degree temps.   I walked outside , chambered a round and fired it.  What a shock!  It penetrate a cinderblock!  How could that be when  “experts” on older weapons say that it just can’t happen! ?     Must have been a one off fluke.

The next day I made this little test . I soaked the gun in a frozen creek for a few hours in 8 degree temp.

 

 

 

The gun is reliable accurate and looks great.  It is the solution if you want a nice example  that you can shoot without the guilt of a real one being further worn.  I think if I  was a real but about WWII airborne units and their gear it would be a must have for me.  If you buy your own, you can pretend to be in 101st or 82nd or 17th airborne shooting up the krauts. Or if you really did those things, it would maybe be nice to have your old friend in your hands again if you carried and liked the  weapon.  Some say they hated it. But the M1 carbine was much loved by Audie Murphy.

I certainly enjoyed taking some mood and glamour shots with WW2 items.

 

 

12 thoughts on “Inland MFG M1A1 Paratrooper Carbine

  1. Nice read! I don’t think you can discount out of hand the rear sight issues highlighted on video by Nutnfancy and Forgotten Weapons. This might be a YMMV sort of thing, but it looks like a known issue . I can second the AO offerings feel sub par compared to surplus or these new Inlands, but the wood on these new Inlands have varied wildly in quality when I’ve seen them in stores. None seem to look as good as the photos you shot for this and your other articles on their other carbines. Nutn also mentioned the wood issue in his review. What I’ve seen has fallen somewhere in between. The accuracy your getting is a real high point. I’m still on the fence though between a New Inland or a Fulton Armory rebuild for a bit more. Appreciate the article!

    • I can tell you exactly with 100 percent truth why the wood looks different

      Inland told me themselves. The first batch went out made with the exact same finish the WW2 models had. with the same formula stain made the same way per an original employee of INland who worked the line in wartime
      So many people complained to Inland that the wood didnt “match” the look of the surplus guns ( that had years and years of oil., sweat, crime, solvent, and who knows what darkening it) So many people who didnt know any better complained that Inland started finishing the guns with the darker look you see on some of them now. The guns I have tested are T&E samples made before the change
      nutnfacny and forgotten weapons can say what they want but THE same M1 Ian and Karl tested and complained about, was sent to them by me. That was the gun I tested, tossed in muddy silty ice water and shot and abused. I did them a favor by helping them get approved to get that gun after I finished my review. Not that they ever thanked me or mentioned in their video “:review” a link back to my review to give some perspective on just how much abuse that gun had seen before they got it. The gun also had been tested by Hunter at Rangehot.com before it was sent on to me. Neither Hunter or myself had the slightest issue with it. I think Ian and Karl got the exact result they were trying their damndest to get out of that gun to be honest. They had made their minds up it was junk and when they had it the jury was already in and their test gave them the results they already had made up their minds it was going to give.

      The boys at inrange/forgotten weapons also repeated the same old nonesense of the 30 carbine not penetrating heavy clothing momnths after I shot the 30 carbine through 2 feet of heavy cloth that i soaked in water and froze solid. As I said. the fix was in..

      I haven’t had my hands on the fulton. I haven’t heard many others talking about them one way or the other though.

      Thanks for the kind words and I am glad you enjoyed the write up.

  2. Never understood all the complaints. Its been years since my little ones been out on the range but when it was it never gave me trouble. And it turns out theres a chunk missing from the receiver even.

    • Man you know how it is. Some kinda of “common knowledge ” tall tale gets started about some gun and “experts” repeat it down through the years every after. even the expurts who have never fired one.

      • Yeah. I think mindset might have something to do with it too. People would complain about the lack of power but people had the whole long range 1 shot kill idea for years. I think if you took modern ideas and practices like you see in the carbine classes that abound today back to the 40s it would have a much more solid reputation.

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