More Thoughts And Follow Ups From Some Others On The M14

Last weeks post on the M14 and its variety of shortcomings certainly stirred up the ire of its faithful followers. Link to offending article below.

Indeed we had to sleep under the bed with a gun in our hand  in fear of The Old M14 Boys Club coming to take us away.  Surprising to the guns fans, many spoke up with their actual real world experience with the piece confirming the point of the article.

http://looserounds.com/2015/01/30/the-m14-not-much-for-fighting-a-case-against-the-m14-legend/

Most recent is a sand test video from In Range  TV, testing the M14 against an AR15 and a MAS.  While I have been told  for years and against my own experience the M14 would laugh at a little sand, the video and reality seems to indicate different.

https://www.full30.com/video/6618755f336970e55e6c50c1fe894ff8

The boys tested the same guns earlier in the mud.  The M14 performing exactly as expected for those who know them well.

https://www.full30.com/video/9eef6b3a4eb6c8846a4c8dc4b8968bc4

My personal favorite gun blog, that is not this one, had a few words to add to the heated debate 24 hours after the festivities started with my post.    Over on weaponsman.com, a lively discussion is still on going with more than a handful of real world military users speaking up.

http://weaponsman.com/?p=20589

If you are not familiar with weaponsman.com. It is superb and is highly recommended daily reading. Description of the blogs writer and mission statement. “WeaponsMan is a blog about weapons. Primarily ground combat weapons, primarily small arms and man-portable crew-served weapons. The site owner is a former Special Forces weapons man (MOS 18B, before the 18 series, 11B with Skill Qualification Indicator of S), and you can expect any guest columnists to be similarly qualified.”

Some more discussion and viewpoint comes from a fine blog. Everydaymarksman.com. which has as a focus the owners personal quest to becoming a true rifleman and the experiences and epiphanies he has along the way.

https://everydaymarksman.wordpress.com/2015/02/02/lots-of-discussion-on-the-venerable-m14-lately/

Following some of the shrill screaming, rending of clothes and gnashing of teeth has shown many missed the point, or became so angry they did not give any consideration to the post.  Most often seen is the claim the point of the article was to talk up the AR10 or AR15, when that was obviously not the goal to anyone who can comprehend English. Nor was it an attempt to get anyone to hate the gun.  It was a discussion of its shortcomings and the honest assessment that it is far from perfect all powerful or even a decent DMR weapon, and the caliber of the gun was not even discussed. That being the other claim, that some how we were ragging on the 308, though no mention of the effectiveness was even hinted at.

While many love the rifle, nothing will change our minds from the simple truth of it. While it is  better than a tamato stake. it is far from what its blind followers would like to think.

Lastly, I am re sharing the link to some informal shooting of a custom M14 from over a year ago. While not intended to be conclusive proof of anything, it was a fun comparison of some of the classic infantry weapons of yesteryear including the M1903, M1 Garand of course the much beloved( though undeserved ) M14

http://looserounds.com/2013/09/30/more-1000-yard-shooting-m1903-m14-and-even-a-colt-commando/

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