Small update. A lot of internet and armchair “experts”out there who read these want to point out how “poor” my choice of ammo was, being I did not use enough hollow points to suit them. They failed to read the part where I stated “common rounds” for popular calibers. Test are not scientific and not meant to show every single HD or self defense/duty load ever made. Most handgun HP ammo turns to ball ammo went it hits anything more solid then flesh anyway, so its still a good example of what would likely happen. As far as the rifle rounds, a lot of people want to use M855 or M193 for HD, mistakenly thinking that because the military uses it, it must be good. Article was meant to show that as a bad idea. All the experts are welcome to do take the time , money and their own ammo to show results they get, or send me all the HP ammo they want tested at their expense. To all those who can read and understand the purpose of these tests, please enjoy. Thank you. Shawn.
Last time I fired a variety of the more popular 556 rounds commonly stockpiled by shooter and one of the most popular defense loads through a variety of things inside of a house to see what happens. The idea was to maybe get and idea what could go wrong if you had to fight inside a house or take cover behind things or you are just worried about over penetration. Just like I said last time ( though some of the more illiterate seemed to not have read) this is not a scientific test and I make no claims it is. But it is something to help you think. I hope.
This is the next part to what may be a series of at least 5 “test.” I am going to show the results of what happened when I fired 5.45 from a AK74 type rifle, 7.62×39 from AK47 type.some ballistic tip rounds from a 5.56 AR15 carbine and ball and Ranger T HPs from a 45 ACP.
The first rounds I fired are the 5.45. The ammo is the standard round as used by the Russian Mil. A lot of people like it because it is cheap and they feel it more deadly then a 5.56 in ball ammo form. Or at least the same if just cheaper.
The rounds punched a nice entry hole going in. But, one the got to the opposite side,they keyholed. You can see they stayed pretty much intact. Look how lean the holes are in the picture below.
They went on through the target, and the wood board behind holding it up and struck a cooking pot behind and stopping.
The light makes it look like a hole but it is not. It did seem in one out of 20 rounds to have fragged. With the core some how bouncing off the pot and coming back to stick in the back side of the cardboard target.
You can see the core on the far left. This is the only evidence of fragmentation from the 5.45 I could find all day.
Next I fired some of the ballistic tip 5.56 to see how it would compare to the m193 , m855 and TAP used the last time.
A lot of people will say that ballistic tip will not over penetrate and like to keep it as a home defense round.
Hole by the paster is a perfectly cut hole left by a 55 grain ballistic tip fired through a fridge. This was pretty normal I found. Other damage was parts of metal from the fridge skin. This surprised me enough to fire the BT through an outside window that was double pane into another target 10 yards behind the glass.
The large hole in the target in the upper left and bottom are from the ballistic tip 5.56 fired through a double window. The glass deflected it a few inches from center line where I aimed. Rounds continued on through the double 2 x 4 door frame it rested against before splattering on the wall behind. Middle hole in target is from 45 ACP ranger T hollow point fired through same glass. 45 stopped inside the double 2x4s behind target with almost not real deflection.
I also fired the 45 ACp through the fridge. HPs and ball.
HPs and ball went through fridge and target. Punches through wood prop, then went deep into stove behind the target. HPs no doubt caved in on itself and turned effectively into ball.
I also fired from and outside wall, through a TV entertainment center stand at a target “hiding” behind and through 3 walls to see what would happen. I used the HPs in every case since I had a pretty good idea what ball would do. I thought anyway.
and exit hole after going through wall and 3 layers of the stand.
Below is target after 45 ACP was fired through 3 inside walls and one closet wooden door.
Exit holes are seen in wall and one of the hits on the target paper. All shots continued on through cabinet and another wall. This was all done with HP ammo.
Next is from the much vaunted 7.62×39 ball ammo. I expected the rounds to go through the fridge destroying it and deep penetration into the stove behind.
This is what was left of the only round of 30 fired of the M43 round that made it through the fridge. I fired from 5 feet from the fridge. One made it through and was badly fragged. It did not go through the wooden backer. No other round got through or even bulged the back side of the fridge much to my surprise. The ‘x39 would go through walls but keyholed and had limited penetration once it did. None made it through the book case or dryer either. GLass deflected the M43 so much I could not get one on the IDPA target so I am not sure what it would have looked like. I ran out of the ammo I brought before I could land a hit. Did not matter since I ran out of glass anyway.
The book case defeated all other rounds just as I expected.
More holes on one side, but not more exits. Books remain undefeated. Though all rounds tried would penetrate sometimes up to 10 inches of books alone. When shot through case and books stacked tight, few things seem to have the power. Am going to try a 308 round next on the bookcase.
I am not going to bother showing all the pictures of the dryer since nothing made it clean though. The 5.45 made it into the dryer but not out the other side. The balistic tipped 556 came closest to a through and through. The 45 ACP did not punch clean through but made some impressive damage before coming to rest on the far side guts on the dryer. Internal exit holes from the 45 ACP can be seen below. The ranger T tore large gouges through the dryers insides. Does not mean anything, but it is something to ponder.
All shots fired into dryer first passed through two walls and a bathroom door before hitting the metal of the dryer.
You can see the shredded remains of the rifle rounds laying in bottom of the dryer in the picture.
Once again I was surprised by the results of this very unscientific test. Things I thought that would be stopped were not, and things I thought would penetrate deep did not do much. Maybe if I did it all again it would be the opposite of this. Who knows? One thing is becoming pretty clear to anyone who wants to pay attention. Nothing can be depended upon to be “safe” or “safer” from over penetration when talking about being used inside a home. DO NOT assume your pet HD load or round is going to work like we are told it will be ammo companies. The only thing you can depend upon is that the worst possible thing that can happen, is likely to happen if you take it for granted and maybe even if you do your best. You just can not know. the best policy is to do your best not to have to zip off a round in your house if anyone else is inside you do not want hurt. The best choice in a perfect world is to call the cops and barricade your self in a safe room or get out of the house. We do not live in a perfect world though. So , spend as much time thinking about this as you can if you seriously think you may one dark night need to shoot inside your home. Or re think where you may point your muzzle when loading/unloading your weapon. Draw your own conclusions because I am not going to make any claims about firearms ammo doing anything for a fact when it hits anything other then air.